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Ebay Hats: Victories, Defeats, Gripes & Items of Interest

ScottF

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CRH said:
Not for me 'cause they were too big. The second one looked to have a reedless sweat.

What's your assessment, Scott?

I think the brim measurements had to be off lol I think you're right that the 2nd one is reedless, and maybe the 1st one was also - if the conditions is as stated, the deals were superb.

Hope someone here snagged them and can show us some better pictures - they really looked like JTL-collection hats lol
 

Dreispitz

One Too Many
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ScottF said:
I think the brim measurements had to be off lol I think you're right that the 2nd one is reedless, and maybe the 1st one was also - if the conditions is as stated, the deals were superb.

Hope someone here snagged them and can show us some better pictures - they really looked like JTL-collection hats lol

I will send a picture once the light greenish? one is here. :rolleyes:
 

feltfan

My Mail is Forwarded Here
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3,190
Location
Oakland, CA, USA
It is a formillion, used with a conformateur to shape a hat.
It's not a home stretcher, but rather a hat maker's tool.

The one sold appears to be missing a piece.
The conformateur is placed on the head to get both
size and more to the point shape of the head. This is
recorded by piercing a card with the shape. The hat maker
then cuts out the shape, following the piercings. This paper
is then placed in the formillion. The pegs are moved to be flush
with the paper, causing the outer pieces to reflect the shape
and size of the head. The formillion is then locked down and
put inside the hat during heating and finishing.

The one sold in that auction appears to be missing the piece
that holds the card stock head-shape paper. It was still a steal of a price.
Would have been at ten times the price.

There are many postings here on this subject and many
on the web. Here's one:

http://lumberjocks.com/projects/13131
 

rlk

I'll Lock Up
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6,100
Location
Evanston, IL
Knox Tom 'n Jerry

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Chinaski

One Too Many
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1,045
Location
Orange County, CA
jeffconnors said:

This may lend credence to the theory that it's not Loungers driving up Whippet prices. I would think most Loungers would not be put off by the poor marketing of this listing - the seller had the brim down all around. I would surmise a higher price would have been obtained if the brim was in normal "Whippet" style, up in back and down in front. So the unusual styling scared people off. That's my theory anyway...or I could be full of hot air!
 

cptjeff

Practically Family
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564
Location
Greensboro, NC
Chinaski said:
This may lend credence to the theory that it's not Loungers driving up Whippet prices. I would think most Loungers would not be put off by the poor marketing of this listing - the seller had the brim down all around. I would surmise a higher price would have been obtained if the brim was in normal "Whippet" style, up in back and down in front. So the unusual styling scared people off. That's my theory anyway...or I could be full of hot air!

Then who would be doing it? Lounge lurkers is the only reasonable theory I've seen.
 

Chinaski

One Too Many
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1,045
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Orange County, CA
As I said, I could be full of hot air. But really, would you be scared off by the presentation of that Whippet? I wouldn't be (although I wasn't bidding on this hat) but I think others must have been. It's kind of like getting a low price on a great vintage fedora that is pictured open crowned and listed as a derby or bowler.
 

rlk

I'll Lock Up
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6,100
Location
Evanston, IL
I wouldn't call it cheap...Its actually a realistic price more in accord with how common the hat is and its quality level(Only Royal, not particularly old or exceptionally pristine). Its still higher than less common and sometimes better quality examples of the same style made by others. Ignoring color and size for simplification, there were 12 wide-brim Whippets sold that come up in Completed Listings with those two words in the title in the last 14 days, this was the only one that didn't break $200.00. More were sold that would not appear by this search method. Check such competitors as Dobbs Hanover Square(0) or Resistol Pace-Setter(0). Classic style yes, but it was a Stetson bestseller in basically the same form for about 30 years.
 

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