Ebay Hats: Victories, Defeats, Gripes & Items of Interest

[ccorsair]

So, I have been watching this hat for a month or more. I have seen it marked down in price and not sell then it relisted a few times.
Now it sold for it's original asking price.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Early-50-039-s-Adam-Premier-Dk-Grey-Fedora-Sz-7-1-2-Back-Bow-EUC-/112549287960?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&nma=true&si=HDCxKecrqQXtQMmLZrLVRiA1L3k%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

I have been watching this hat as I have same make but in brown. It was one of my first buy for a vintage hat but I paid way less.
What makes this one worth more? Funny the shipping is far less than hats that gotten with my state too.

 

[Joao Encarnado]

Lol. Don't forget shipping...

That is were is my wallet pain.

 

[M Hatman]

So, I have been watching this hat for a month or more. I have seen it marked down in price and not sell then it relisted a few times.
Now it sold for it's original asking price.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Early-50-039-s-Adam-Premier-Dk-Grey-Fedora-Sz-7-1-2-Back-Bow-EUC-/112549287960?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&nma=true&si=HDCxKecrqQXtQMmLZrLVRiA1L3k%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

I have been watching this hat as I have same make but in brown. It was one of my first buy for a vintage hat but I paid way less.
What makes this one worth more? Funny the shipping is far less than hats that gotten with my state too.

These are part of the mysteries of ebay......the shipping on this one is cheep.....will cost more to ship....as far as price....who knows othe than now we are moving well into felt weather......straws will be cheaper now......the buyer basicaly bought a stand out cool vintage for the same price of a new production and got a super deal on shipping to boot!! Yours could probebly sell for much the same now......as this offering was my size, I may have been interested if I did not already own a grey Lee water block ( with a little wider brim) as well as a simular brown Royal Deluxe Stetson. Price also GREATLY increases on the bigger sizes (7 3/8 and on up).
All this says........know one really knows......the market is strange sometimes.
Cheers,
M

 

[moontheloon]

So, I have been watching this hat for a month or more. I have seen it marked down in price and not sell then it relisted a few times.
Now it sold for it's original asking price.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Early-50-039-s-Adam-Premier-Dk-Grey-Fedora-Sz-7-1-2-Back-Bow-EUC-/112549287960?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&nma=true&si=HDCxKecrqQXtQMmLZrLVRiA1L3k%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

I have been watching this hat as I have same make but in brown. It was one of my first buy for a vintage hat but I paid way less.
What makes this one worth more? Funny the shipping is far less than hats that gotten with my state too.

seems like a bit of a shady situation to me ... I don't think anyone would pay that price for that hat ... who knows really ... but I highly doubt it

 

[Levallois]

Got this one for a reasonable price. Dates to between 1956 and 1964. Size 7 1/2.

 

[M Hatman]

Got this one for a reasonable price. Dates to between 1956 and 1964. Size 7 1/2.

Looks like you did Gooooooooddddd! Can you get a close up of the sweat markings and the tip art?
Really looks nice.......
M

 

[Levallois]

Thank you for the encouraging comments. Here are a couple more photos. I don’t know what tip art is?

 

[BobHufford]

Got this one for a reasonable price. Dates to between 1956 and 1964. Size 7 1/2.

Good get! It hurts a bit that it is my size and I didn't find it, but I'm happy you did. Looking forward to seeing it on your head.

 

[25B]

I don’t know what tip art is?

The liner.

Not an “Open Road” model then...interesting...

 

[Levallois]

Ah, the liner! Don't have a good photo of that - it's the embroidered "last drop" with clear plastic over it. I'll try to get a good photo of it.

I was surprised that no one bid against me on this hat! I did have to ask the seller if it was a 6 1/2 or 7 1/2 as it wasn't clear so maybe folks though it was a 6 1/2?

 

[alanfgag]

A 6 1/2 would have been very rare and expensive. ;^)

 

[alanfgag]

I 'spect it's similar to this. Good fishin'

 

[alanfgag]

The liner.

Not an “Open Road” model then...interesting...

It's a western hat, not Open Road style, though there were many hats with OR construction and dimensions that were sold without that style moniker imprint.

 

[M Hatman]

Good get! It hurts a bit that it is my size and I didn't find it, but I'm happy you did. Looking forward to seeing it on your head.

PLUS ONE!!! My size too!!
Plus it looks to be in incredible shape!!!
M

 

[Levallois]

I 'spect it's similar to this. Good fishin'

That's it exactly.

 

[Levallois]

Plus it looks to be in incredible shape!!!
M

It's definitely one of the least used hats I've gotten off ebay.

 

[Frunobulax]

It's a western hat, not Open Road style, though there were many hats with OR construction and dimensions that were sold without that style moniker imprint.

Yeah, I have two "Open Roads," though only one says it. But I still call the other an OR.

Similarly, my San Antonio doesn't have the name, but was made on the same block and has the same dimensions as those which do.

Seems I've read a lively debate over in the OR thread on this subject. Where do you weigh in?


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[Frunobulax]

If it doesn’t actually have “Open Road” printed on the sweat, it isn’t a legitimate OR hat. (Not talking about current production ones...they have their own set of problems...)

I see people on eBay all the time calling their 3” wide brim Stetsons “Open Road” and they’re just not, in my opinion. Many others go, “....but....but....but......it ‘looks’ like an Open Road....”. Yeah.......no.

By that token, if you get the sweat replaced, it's no longer an OR. Plus, the one I do have that says it's an OR has a 3 1/4" brim.


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[Bamaboots]

By that token, if you get the sweat replaced, it's no longer an OR. Plus, the one I do have that says it's an OR has a 3 1/4" brim.


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Jim, the RD OR I wore yesterday has a 2 3/4" brim and the 25 with no designation has the exact same dimensions.

 

[Frunobulax]

Jim, the RD OR I wore yesterday has a 2 3/4" brim and the 25 with no designation has the exact same dimensions.

I think it's a fair argument to make that, if it doesn't say "Open Road" it might not be one, but I don't hold that position. Dimensions are a hard call with ORs, since they're not all the same. Some ORs have more brim than others, some have different crown heights over the years. There is a lot open to interpretation.

Resistol had the SA, the Dalworth, and I think another Texas city as well (Dallas? I forget). The discussion on those, I believe contained the tidbit that they all used the same block and had the same dimensions.

As with so many other hat discussions, it seems it's tough to reach a solid conclusion.

Hat stuff be whack. And I love it gives us something to argue about!


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