Eating pets

[Elaina]

Hey my cats work. The peach terror has to put up with a 7 year old and not bite or claw. THAT'S true work. My other cat stalks the mean old flies and barks at the door and protects me. He works.

I think the kitten works harder.

 

[Haversack]

I'm agin' the eating of pets as those are individual animals which have been made psrt of one's family. I am not against the eating of animals which are traditionally associated with being pets. Certain of these, (chihuahua, guinea pig) were specifically bred to be human food. I am particularly against the salami tactics of banning the consumption of this meat, then that meat, then yet another meat as that is part of a long-term political campaign to ban the consumption all meat. It is also arogant.

Paisley wrote: "There's a difference between eating livestock and eating pets. That's why you shouldn't get emotionally involved with livestock (e.g., naming rabits you are raising for food). Unless you name them Stu."

The latest generation of the family making a living by farming and ranching solved that problem in a similar manner. The turkeys they raised for 4H were named 'Thanksgiving' and 'Christmas'.

As far as invertebrates go, I've eaten witchety grubs, green ants, Moreton Bay Bugs, abelone, mussels, Dungenes Crab (in season now!), a wide variety of shrimp, and various cephelopods. Most recent odd mammel eaten was camel. There is a lot of sugar in camel meat so you have to be careful about it carmelizing and burning. Marinating and slow moist cooking is the way to go. As far as humans and primates go, I've never been in the survival situation where that might determine living or dieing.

Haversack.
"Oh I'm Cook and the Captain bold,
And the Mate of the Nancy brig,
The Boatswain tight, and the Midshipmite,
And the crew of the captain's gig."

 

[carebear]

"Few people know that many parts of a Volkswagen are edible..."
Euell Gibbons

You ever eat a Buick? You can you know. lol

In Thailand my Thai Recon Marine brothers taught me that everything in the jungle is edible... and everything in the jungle wants to eat you.

I have eaten the bugs, and the snakes.. and drunk the blood of the Cobra.

Mixed with Mekong whiskey, it ain't half bad.

 

[drafttek]

Reminds me of a short story

I read this a long time ago and thought it was very funny. All this meat talk reminded me of it.
http://www.terrybisson.com/meat.html

 

[Fletch]

In Thailand my Thai Recon Marine brothers taught me that everything in the jungle is edible... and everything in the jungle wants to eat you.

Seems to me like a perfectly logical extension of the warrior world view.

BTW, what elite unit was it that was ordered to practice choke holds on neighborhood kitty cats?

 

["Doc" Devereux]

Seems to me like a perfectly logical extension of the warrior world view.

BTW, what elite unit was it that was ordered to practice choke holds on neighborhood kitty cats?

You've got that the wrong way round, Fletch. That's actually from a demonstration of unarmed combat by the 17th (King's Own) Mousers, an ancient regiment of the British Army that was sadly removed from the rolls in the last defence review when it was amalgamated with the Welsh Purring Brigade.

Just as well, really. Their choir was awful.

 

[Senator Jack]

Forget it, Jack. It's Chinatown

Okay, so I'm the friend that had the original conversation with Matt. Here's the tale:

At the end of August I was coming home on the subway. It was just getting toward noon on a Saturday so there weren't many people on the Queens-bound train. I'm sitting there a bit groggy from a bender when I start hearing, 'Meow. Meow. Meow. Meow. Meow': a cat going on like an alarm clock. There are a few girls across from me and we all start looking around for the complaining cat, but we don't see anyone with a cat carrier. Then we all zero in on the elderly Chinese man. 'Is that cat in that box,' I ask the girls. Bewildered, they all agree.

This man had evidently just finished shopping in Chinatown. He had a small shopping cart filled with groceries. On the bottom there was box marked 'filets' and on the top there were two boxes filled with vegetables. In the middle? A taped up box with no airholes and a poor cat inside. 'He's going to eat that cat,' I said to myself.

He gets off the train a few stops before mine, but I was compelled to follow him. While he struggled with his cart, I waited at the bottom of the stairs, and I think my detective skills weren't up to par as I could see he knew I was following him. I cross the street ahead of him and feign interest in a mailbox, the gutter, a discarded lottery ticket. He finally crosses the street and casually lights a cigarette. I move on a bit, but keep my eye on him. Well, I didn't want to believe it, but the guy did go into a Chinese restaurant with that cat.

What was I going to do? If I had knocked him over to rescue the cat, I would have been arrested. I couldn't prove he was going to eat the cat, even though it was wrapped up like groceries. I called the SPCA, but because it was a Saturday, the cruelty department was closed and a message referred me to the local authorities. Not finding a cop when I needed one (two urban legends realized in one morning!) I walked over to the stationhouse and filled out a report. The cop didn't know what to make of it, but he did call the department of health and I was given a case number which was of no use. There would be no investigation, and the kicker is that when I reported the incident to the SPCA on Monday, the agent tells me 'Perhaps he was using it to catch mice.' 'In a box with no airholes?' I replied. 'Wrapped up like groceries?' Nothing. They didn't care.

Somewhere down in Chinatown there's a cat/dog market, and it makes me sick to think that the authorities are doing nothing about it. Prescinding culture, ethics, et cetera, the fact is that it's against the law in this country to eat dog and cat. If you want to eat dog and cat, go live in a country where it's legal to do so. Just the same as if you want to have six wives or legally smoke hash. It used to be that people came to America to be Americans, now they just want it to be their country but in a different place with a better economy. Everyone here knows me as a fairly liberal sort, but in a case like this, I can be draconian.

Regards,

Senator Jack

 

[skwerl-hat]

im not so sure about eating dogs monkeys or cats,
however i once had a taste for ants. i used to roast them in a pan. taste like orange citrus or lemon.

 

[LaMedicine]

Chinese cuisine includes just about everything.
I do not know about cats, but I have read a number of times that Red Dog meat is one of their coveted delicacies. As are bears' paws.
There's an ancient court menu pronounced in Japanese "Mangan Zenseki", I don' know how it's pronounced in Chinese, but it translates into something like "All 10,000 Materials". Bears' paw is one of the main dishes of this menu.

Horse meat is a delicacy in certain areas of Japan, but I've never fancied it. I have been told it isn't that bad, though.
Incidentally, beef was not eaten in Japan until the mid 19th century, after Cmdr. Perry came and forced Japan to open up. For a long time, though, popular belief was that one turned into cows in their sleep if you ate beef. lol
I ate crocodile meat in Australia, once. It was on the menu of a Chinese restaurant there.

Come to think of it, um, with one of our traditional musical instruments, the "Shamisen" a string instrument, the hide used for it is said to be cat, but, um, I don't know if they still do, or if they use some sort of synthetic fiber now...
A version of this instrument made in Okinawa, called "Jabisen" uses snake skin, which makes me feel better, truthfully.

 

[BegintheBeguine]

My three Chinese pugs

Chan, Fu Manchu, and Mr. Wong say: Thank you Senator "Detective" Jack.

 

[Tomasso]

Somewhere down in Chinatown there's a cat/dog market

There's an active slave trade operating in Chinatown as well.

 

[GOK]

If the creature is a domesticated pet, I don't really agree with that, but if the animal was in the wild and hunted (veal, anyone?),

Veal calves are not wild, neither are they hunted. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I don't see the difference between eating one kind of meat or another. If one is prepared to eat certain animals, why not others?

 

[jamespowers]

Veal calves are not wild, neither are they hunted. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I don't see the difference between eating one kind of meat or another. If one is prepared to eat certain animals, why not others?

Yep, in a pinch squirrel, skunk, beaver and all the others would do. The difference is purely preference.

Regards,

J

 

[carebear]

If the creature is a domesticated pet, I don't really agree with that, but if the animal was in the wild and hunted (veal, anyone?),

Veal calves are not wild, neither are they hunted. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I don't see the difference between eating one kind of meat or another. If one is prepared to eat certain animals, why not others?

I think the veal reference was as an example of a "might as well be a domesticated pet" not as an example of a "wild and hunted" creature. It was just placed at the end, rather than in the middle, which led to confusion. Benefit of the doubt and all.

 

[Legal Concepts]

Eat it, why not Cremation?

There is a company in California that actually does this, they will cremate your pet when it dies, and you can have that keepsake, they are doing good buisness too. :rage: lol lol lol

 

[LolitaHaze]

When it comes to eating pets, I don't want anyone to eat my dogs, but eating my cat is a whole other story.

 

[Absinthe_1900]

And fewer still know the delight of a picnic made of jeep.
Corporal Maxwell Q. Klinger

I dare you to look at Eugene and say that.lol

 

[RaasAlHayya]

I find it morbidly amusing that this thread is right next to the "Corned Beef Hash" thread. lol

--Leslie

 

[Phil]

I don't think that eating stray animals would be such a terrible thing. Pounds across America out down thousands of cats and dogs that could be used as food to help feed the homeless. Who knows, it may not even be limited to the poor and needy, it could very well be one of the next delecasies. Look at escargot, all it is are fried snails, yet people are willing ot pay over $50 for one plate of maybe 7 or 8 snails.

 

[Paisley]

During the program "The 1940s House," the family decided to sell rather than eat the rabbits they'd been given. The historians said that according to diarists of that era, many people just couldn't eat animals that had been raised as pets.

During the 30s or 40s, my father overheard a transaction between his father and another man. They were trading gas stamps for a side of horse. The man said, "Don't tell your kids it's horse." The people of that time and place weren't Milquetoasts with delicate sensibilities; they lived on farms and knew poverty. But they had an affection for horses.

Why not eat some animals and not others? In the case of pets vs. livestock or wild animals, pets love and trust us. Some of them protect us. In the case of dogs in particular, they seek our affection and approval. When they suffer and die, their masters grieve. Pets are part of the family. I think society has become coarse enough without eating "man's best friend." Our society is also awash in food as it is. If anything, we could use more carrots and caulflower, not canine.