Early STETSON Models- ads Pre-Depression

[Joshbru3]

and this....

Second set of plates WITHOUT writing

 

[Walt]

Now if we could just find a stash of these in NOS that haven't been touched by the elements or moths in an old store warehouse. And for some of us in the larger sizes! You never know what might turn up.

Thanks for sharing these.

 

[Joshbru3]

There has to be more of these out there. BUMP

 

[TomS]

Great thread, thanks...

 

[Joshbru3]

I found a few more Stetson Pacemaker ads...

February 22 1916

From: Bryan daily eagle and pilot




February 23 1916

From: Daily capital journal




February 24 1916

From: The Lawton Constitution





Feb 24th 1916

From: The Spokesman-Review





Feb 25th 1916

From: Amsterdam Evening Recorder




February 29 1916

Bryan daily eagle and pilot




March 4th 1916

From: The Morning Herald

 

[fedoracentric]

I had put this on another thread, but since some of these ads have prices, I thought these cards I saw on ebay may be of interest here, too. These are wholesale prices for Stetsons, but easy enough to extrapolate to retail based on other ads and what not.

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It is interesting to note that Stetson had a hat called the Chamois, but did not put the name Stetson on it! I wonder if that was a brand it bought out or something?

 

[Joshbru3]

I had put this on another thread, but since some of these ads have prices, I thought these cards I saw on ebay may be of interest here, too. These are wholesale prices for Stetsons, but easy enough to extrapolate to retail based on other ads and what not.

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It is interesting to note that Stetson had a hat called the Chamois, but did not put the name Stetson on it! I wonder if that was a brand it bought out or something?

These are FANTASTIC! Thanks for posting these.

Lefty had a beautiful Chamois at one time and I actually own a Chamois Derby. There really is NO mention of the Stetson name anywhere.





But.....Stetson did use two labels which can be found in almost every pre-40's Stetson hat.....

 

[fedoracentric]

I shudda knowed that someone here would have seen a Chamois hat at some point! LOL

Now we know that Chamois was a Stetson.... or at least was in the 1920s, anyway. I still wonder if it was a brand Stetson bought out and continued for a while like they did the Mallory later on.

I found the cards I posted above interesting, though. It shows that the prices of the 5X and the 7X were very, very expensive at the time. No wonder we never see any of them from the early days. Comparatively few were probably bought so few exist today.

 

[buler]

Stetson 1922 price list

Here is the Stetson price list from the above post. (click to enlarge)

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[mayserwegener]

Chamois is usually a type of finish.

 

[feltfan]

Interesting. Is that the price per dozen?
So Chamois hat were too cheap to carry the Stetson name, but are still excellent hat.

 

[fedoracentric]

Interesting. Is that the price per dozen?

Yes, those cards are the wholesale price per dozen.

 

[buler]

More research...

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Dec 04, 1903




Sept 1905



Feb 1906



Aug 1906



Sept 1906




Aug 1908



July 1912



Sept 1914



Aug 1915

 

[splintercellsz]

Thank you for sharing!

 

[fedoracentric]

Now, I am wondering if Stetson did not stamp the model name into the sweatband in those days and that the style was what the hat looked like on the outside as opposed to what was stamped on the sweat. I ask this because a lot of the westerns they sold were a similar hat creased differently. I am wondering if the model name stamping started in the 1900s. Does anyone have an answer to that?

 

[fedoracentric]

This one was up on ebay (not mine). If anyone can read the cursive on this 1892 Stetson wholesaler's receipt, let us all know.

 

[TheDane]

I guess, you mean in the field labled "Color, Quality And Style". If so, this is as far I have gotten:

Bronze Nutria Voyage ?
Dark Blue Nutria West ?
Dark Blue Nutria Pocket(?) ?
Bronze Nutria Caprier ?
Dark Blue Nutria ? ?
Dark Blue Nutria XL NT
Dark Blue Nutria R. R.
Dark Blue Nutria ? ?

- but I'm not absolutely sure

 

[fedoracentric]

- but I'm not absolutely sure

I know, right? I always hated cursive. Mine looks like a person with palsy scribbled it! I've never been able to read anyone else's either.

 

[TheDane]

I know, right? I always hated cursive. Mine looks like a person with palsy scribbled it! I've never been able to read anyone else's either.

Hehe ... I don't know your age, but I'm 58 and I got whipped with cursive in school. A whole page of a's, one of b's, one of c's and so on ... and all the way from the top again. I hated it, but learned to write and read cursive after all [huh]

Actually, there are small cultural differencies in the way the same letter is formed. Not much, but enough to make it harder for me to read cursive, written by an American. Even harder is hand written Gothic letters. In Europe, we used the Gothic alphabeth up until the turn of the century 1800/1900. In DK school children were taught Gothic untill 1875, but I have my dad's old Danish copy of Cooper's "Last of The Mohicans" from 1898 - still in Gothic. In about 5 minutes my skills are back, when it comes to printed Gothic, but hand written takes a lot more

 

[TheDane]

I wonder, if the last word on each line isn't "Soft"? I believe so. It would give pretty good meaning: "Bronze Nutria Voyage Soft"