Duke of Windsor - at it again! Duke of Windsor plotted to regain throne

[HadleyH]

Oranges weren't the only fruit.
Neither are apples.
I rest my pear.


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What? lol lol lol

 

[Lincsong]

Wallis must have had it goin' on in the boudoir. Of course, there was that rumor...........

With that face on her, there must have been something going on. But, then the Duke always preferred older matronly women. [huh]

 

[HadleyH]

Look at them... just look at them....

pathetic woman simpson, pathetic husband, and the other one too all pathetic losers

 

[V.C. Brunswick]

Look at them... just look at them....

pathetic woman simpson, pathetic husband, and the other one too all pathetic losers

I would love to have been a fly on the wall for THAT conversation...

Er... now that I think about it, maybe not.

 

[HadleyH]

On second thoughts,I have reassessed my abrupt words.
I should not have called the Duke and wife pathetic. They were just human beings like the rest of us, and human beings are not perfect. His actions can only be considered to have been what he felt best at the time, even if he was wrong.-

 

[Tomasso]

Ahhhh....the kinder, gentler Hadley we've heard whispers about......lol

 

[Carlisle Blues]

On second thoughts,I have reassessed my abrupt words.
I should not have called the Duke and wife pathetic. They were just human beings like the rest of us, and human beings are not perfect. His actions can only be considered to have been what he felt best at the time, even if he was wrong.-

As usual your post made my day brighter.

Your perspective has caused me to consider his humanness rather than the position he was born into. The man had the strength to face the world and his family while he followed his soul's desire to be with Simpson.

That is something I simply respect......He was true to himself....

Thank you Ma'am...

 

[Stearmen]

I Would Be King

On second thoughts,I have reassessed my abrupt words.
I should not have called the Duke and wife pathetic. They were just human beings like the rest of us, and human beings are not perfect. His actions can only be considered to have been what he felt best at the time, even if he was wrong.-

One thing you reminded me about was a special on the Duke a few years ago. What I came away with was the fact that as unpleasant as some of my childhood may have been, I would not trade it with either Edwards or Charles, for all their fortune and status!

 

[DetroitFalcons]

Regarding the Hitler stuff, we need to keep in mind how different the world was in 1936. Germany was on the road to "eliminating" unemployment with a massive military buildup with huge spending for public works, and the US and UK were stuck really bad. It even got worse the next year, while the Fascists and even the Soviets seemed to have "answers".

 

[Carlisle Blues]

Regarding the Hitler stuff, we need to keep in mind how different the world was in 1936. Germany was on the road to "eliminating" unemployment with a massive military buildup with huge spending for public works, and the US and UK were stuck really bad. It even got worse the next year, while the Fascists and even the Soviets seemed to have "answers".

However, it is alleged that he conferred with Hitler against the advice of the British Government.

In addition, according to the American sources, a document, compiled by US naval intelligence agents in 1941, the officials discussed the Duke of Windsor and labeled him "as 'no enemy of Germany' - considered to be only Englishman with whom Hitler would negotiate any peace terms, the logical director of England's destiny after the war".

The report added: "When he was in Germany he had contact with Hitler and he is the only person with whom Hitler would confer in any negotiations of peace or armistice when it becomes necessary.

"Hitler well knows that Edward at present cannot work in a matter that would appear to be against his country, and he does not urge it. But when the proper moment arrives he will be the only person capable of directing the destiny of England."

The stories conflict to some degree and the Prince may have acted in an official capacity should Nazi Germany have prevailed. Thankfully they did not.

 

[Richard Warren]

As difficult as may appear to be to not disagree with Hadley H, I don't (just for the record).

 

[DetroitFalcons]

"Hitler well knows that Edward at present cannot work in a matter that would appear to be against his country, and he does not urge it. But when the proper moment arrives he will be the only person capable of directing the destiny of England."

Edward VIII wouldn't be the first English monarch to seek out foreign help to (re)gain his crown. John I comes to mind right off the top of my head.

 

[Edw8ri]

However, it is alleged that he conferred with Hitler against the advice of the British Government.

In addition, according to the American sources, a document, compiled by US naval intelligence agents in 1941, the officials discussed the Duke of Windsor and labeled him "as 'no enemy of Germany' - considered to be only Englishman with whom Hitler would negotiate any peace terms, the logical director of England's destiny after the war".

The report added: "When he was in Germany he had contact with Hitler and he is the only person with whom Hitler would confer in any negotiations of peace or armistice when it becomes necessary.

"Hitler well knows that Edward at present cannot work in a matter that would appear to be against his country, and he does not urge it. But when the proper moment arrives he will be the only person capable of directing the destiny of England."

The stories conflict to some degree and the Prince may have acted in an official capacity should Nazi Germany have prevailed. Thankfully they did not.

The US Navy got it wrong. But then their knowlege of the British constitution may not have been complete. If the Brits had chosen to open negotiations with Hitler, the man of the hour would have been David Lloyd George. Churchill has written as much.

Lloyd George had been a leading political figure in the early 20th century. He was Britan's war time PM during WWI, and like Edward VIII, he had met Hitler and expressed his admiration for him. From the British perspective, Lloyd George would have been a much better negotiator than Edward VIII. From Hitler's perspective, it would have been sweet justice to have one of the architects of the Versailles Treaty on the other side of the table. Moreover, Lloyd George would have been particularly useful in that he could have credibly formed a pro-Nazi government. The King could not.

 

[Marc Chevalier]

The US Navy got it wrong.

Seems to be the case. The Duke of Windsor was just visiting Hitler for fun.


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[Richard Warren]

That's all well and good, history and all that, but what about the shoes?

 

[Saho]

oh man, I would trade anything to be able to see these old black/white photographs in color. So much of the details are missing. The folks born in 2050 and beyond will have such a blast looking at historical photographs from our period. Don't you guys agree?

 

[Richard Warren]

I wonder if today's electronically stored date will be readable in the future, and if it is who would bother to look at it all.

 

[Marc Chevalier]

... but what about the shoes?

What about them? They're just penny loafers in black and white. Nothing more to say. You want a pair? Get 'em here: http://www.rocketoriginals.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=LOAFER-BLK/WHITE


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[Marc Chevalier]

Oh man, I would trade anything to be able to see these old black/white photographs in color.

Here you go:


http://www.corbisimages.com/Enlargement/Enlargement.aspx?id=UKD549INP&caller=search

http://www.corbisimages.com/Enlargement/Enlargement.aspx?id=U1687C&caller=search

http://www.corbisimages.com/Enlargement/Enlargement.aspx?id=U1329980&caller=search

http://www.corbisimages.com/Enlargement/Enlargement.aspx?id=U1555529&caller=search

http://www.corbisimages.com/Enlargement/Enlargement.aspx?id=NA013202&caller=search

http://www.life.com/image/53027819

http://www.life.com/image/53027815




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[Richard Warren]

What about them? They're just penny loafers in black and white. Nothing more to say. You want a pair? Get 'em here: http://www.rocketoriginals.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=LOAFER-BLK/WHITE


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It's hard to tell for sure from the pictures, but the Rocketoriginals to me seem to give off a sort of exaggerated 50's "retro" vibe. Plus they don't seem to have my size.