Want to buy or sell something? Check the classifieds
  • The Fedora Lounge is supported in part by commission earning affiliate links sitewide. Please support us by using them. You may learn more here.

Do you count 1945 through 1963 as part of the Golden Era?

LizzieMaine

Bartender
Messages
33,757
Location
Where The Tourists Meet The Sea
For me, the Golden Age is from December 17, 1903 to July 20, 1969. Why those specific dates, the first is when Orville Wright first took to the air in a controlled heavier then air machine, the latter is when Neil Armstrong set foot on the moon. Between those dates it was higher, faster and farther on an almost daily basses. After the moon landing, the good times went away and seemed to die, the record became farther and farther apart, the magic was gone!

The space program was the last real hurrah for the prewar/WWII generation as a major force in everyday life. I don't think it's coincidental that it's more or less died off with them.
 

Fastuni

Call Me a Cab
Messages
2,277
Location
Germany
ConstantOne said:
Those were incredible years, lacking the cynicism and pessimism (two different things) which are so prevalent today. As a younger man in his early 30's, I absolutely appreciate any older perspectives which considered a forward-thinking, onward-and-upward view of the world.

In my view it is ambivalent. I also wish for the underlying optimism of Modernism (or as some here call it the "Golden Era") roughly around the same time that has been suggested.
However how many of us here have turned to the "Golden Era" because they have grown largely cynical about the contemporary (and I don't call it "modern"...) world?
I certainly have to some extent. Looking at the numerous discussions here bemoaning the decay of the present world, I think there are many cynics among us.
 

LizzieMaine

Bartender
Messages
33,757
Location
Where The Tourists Meet The Sea
Many of us are cynical about today's cynicism, which is cynicism without a cause. Many people in the early 1930s were bitterly cynical about those who had led us into the Depression -- Herbert Hoover was the first president to be booed in public in anyone's memory, even though he was the poor patsy left holding the bag by those who had preceded him -- but their cynicism was focused and directed toward a positive goal, that of moving away from the dangerous excesses and empty materialistic hedonism of the twenties.

Today's cynicism doesn't seem to have that positive motivation. Modern cynics don't seem to want to create a better world -- they just want to point and snicker at everyone who isn't them. That's not cynicism, that's cheap schoolboy nihilism.
 

Nobert

Practically Family
Messages
832
Location
In the Maine Woods
The term "cynic" is itself a bit squishy. The Cynics of ancient Greece weren't what we'd call cynical these days. And Bierce's definition is somewhat in between.
 

PeterGunnLives

One of the Regulars
Messages
223
Location
West Coast
If the Golden Age was the thirties to mid-forties, then perhaps the post-war years through the first couple years of the sixties could be considered the Silver Age. And I'm a Silver Age kind of guy. I love the modernist architecture and furniture of those years, the car designs, the feature films, the sleek continental-influenced fashion, and the music such as that of the Rat Pack and its accompanying cocktail lounge culture. To me, the whole rockabilly/rock and roll/poodle skirt/sock hop thing that people think of as the stereotypical "fifties" was really for kids, while exotica and cool jazz, martinis, dark lounges, jet-setting, and Arthur Murray-style ballroom dancing were for grown-ups. And the latter stuff is what "the fifties" mean to me.
 
Last edited:

Inkstainedwretch

One Too Many
Messages
1,037
Location
United States
It was right around '63 that men stopped wearing hats as everyday business attire. Utilitarian covers like cowboy hats, baseball caps and such continued in use but the age of the fedora, homburg, trilby, porkpie and such was past. Previously you were not "fully dressed" if you wore a business suit, or even a sport coat and slacks out in public , without some form of hat. You took it off indoors. There were hatracks everywhere and church pews had spring clips on their backs for men to store their hats while inside the church. All that, and the rest of hat culture, disappeared with the age.
 

2jakes

I'll Lock Up
Messages
9,680
Location
Alamo Heights ☀️ Texas
If the Golden Age was the thirties to mid-forties, then perhaps the post-war years through the first couple years of the sixties could be considered the Silver Age. And I'm a Silver Age kind of guy. I love the modernist architecture and furniture of those years, the car designs, the feature films, the sleek continental-influenced fashion, and the music such as that of the Rat Pack and its accompanying cocktail lounge culture. To me, the whole rockabilly/rock and roll/poodle skirt/sock hop thing that people think of as the stereotypical "fifties" was really for kids, while exotica and cool jazz, martinis, dark lounges, jet-setting, and Arthur Murray-style ballroom dancing were for grown-ups. And the latter stuff is what "the fifties" mean to me.

Your description of the “fifties” as being for the “kids” rings true.
Because....I was a kid in the fifties.
 
Last edited:

Forum statistics

Threads
109,265
Messages
3,077,599
Members
54,221
Latest member
magyara
Top