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WEEGEE

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[POST_BYLINE]By Douglas Brown<QC>
<MC>Denver Post Staff Writer<QC>
[TEXT_RR]He's out of money, headed to jail, loathed and ridiculed by many
people who used to call him pal.
But one thing former Washington lobbyist Jack Abramoff has going for him: a
good hat.
He donned the black fedora with its creased crown and gently angled brim for
his post-courthouse voyage through a media gantlet one recent gray day in
the District of Columbia.
Abramoff made a blizzard of bad decisions during the 21st century; flopping
a ballcap on his head for his D.C. court appearance, blessedly, was not one
of them.
He saved that moronic move for the next day, when he exited a Florida
courtroom.
From serious man in serious trouble to knucklehead yahoo in serious trouble,
in the space of two days.
You should have stuck with the fedora, Jack.
Back when men always wore suits, men wore honest hats instead of
advertisements. Fedoras and trilbys, Panamas, derbys and homburgs; fur felt
and silk, feathers and herringbone.
Now, men head out for a night at the movies wearing T-shirts celebrating
Starbucks, and ballcaps shilling for Office Depot.
The sad ballcap has its proper place - in the garden, on the running trail,
speckling the ballfield. But like an alien, invasive weed, it's rooted far
beyond its native soil, and nearly vanquished the more dashing and
complicated hats that once flourished everywhere in America.
All men, however, have the power to reject the ballcap's sweet poison and
cover their heads with something else - something sharp, classy, adult.
First, though, a man in search of a hat must find a style. And then he must
find a hat. Neither task is necessarily easy unless the man elects to wear a
cowboy hat, a fine, storied category of lid with a range of styles. If
you're the kind of guy who likes cowboy hats and can pull off the look they
project, go for it.
Then there's the rest of us.
I started wearing fedoras now and again after my grandfather died and I
found a stash of his hats.
Gramps would put on a suit and fit a handkerchief in his breast pocket to
drive to the grocery store for bread. Gramps looked like Dean Martin and
dealt poker in Las Vegas back when the freeways were lined with billboards
for Sinatra, Sammy Davis Jr. and Liberace. Gramps wore fedoras.
I'm no Gramps. I'm not sure if people guffaw behind my back when I pass with
a fedora on my head and no complementary suit sheathing the rest of my body.
If they did, I might care.
For now, I'm comfortable with certain fedora styles, definitely not the
wide-brimmed "Indiana Jones" style, but instead fedoras with shorter brims -
even the the style with the shortest brim, referred to as "stingy brim" -
and "trilbys," an English hat that some people say is a fedora; trilbys have
short brims and tapered crowns.<NO1>cq<NO>
[SUBHED]Back in style
[/SUBHED]Fedoras, especially the short-brim styles, are appearing in public
again, with celebrities like Ashton Kutcher, Justin Timberlake and Donell
Jones routinely wearing them. For the most part, these fellas aren't pairing
suits with fedoras.
At The Fedora Lounge (www.thefedoralounge.com), a 2-year-old discussion
board for lovers of men's hats, membership is growing by about 200 people a
month, says Michael Key, who started the site.
Just months ago, he says, the site had several hundred members, but now it's
up to 1,600.
"I think people are getting a little bit tired of the tacky slob look," he
says. "There's a certain move towards people having a more glamorous look."
For generations, he says, top hats were formalwear and bowlers, derbys and
homburgs were considered casual. Early in the 20th century the boater hat -
the kind of straw hat guys in barbershop quartets wear - claimed the casual
look, and the homburgs, derbys and bowlers began to look more formal.
The fedora arrived somewhere in the 1920s, he says, and during the next
several decades it changed, starting out with a tall crown and a narrow
brim, having a wide brim and tall crown in the 1930s (the "Indiana Jones"
style), and then shrinking every decade until it was short and nearly
brimless in the 1960s.
It never was considered a stuffy hat, like homburgs and bowlers had become.
It faded nevertheless in the 1960s, an era that brought lots of rebellion by
young people against previous generations, a president from Massachusetts
who didn't often wear hats, and a lot of hair - hair that people wanted to
exhibit, hair that invited extreme hat-head.
Many men's hats went subterranean for decades. When they returned, they were
ballcaps.
The fedora may have slipped into the shadows, but it didn't die.
It's "a versatile hat, it fits into all of those camps (of formal and
casual)," says Key. "That's one of the reasons it has remained popular."
[SUBHED]Iconic look
[/SUBHED]The persistence of the fedora can be traced, too, to its
identification with Hollywood icons like Humphrey Bogart and with the classy
and sophisticated Golden Age of the 1930s and 1940s.
The fedora looked great on those guys, and some contemporary men say hey, if
it worked then, why not now?
That's the idea behind Jim Boatright's embrace of the fedora. Boatright, 64,
of Golden, a retired Lockheed Martin engineer, always wore hats, but his
fondness for them increased after he retired, about five years ago. Now,
he's got about 40 hats, many of them fedoras, some of them custom-made.
"Knowing you have a Borsalino on your head gives you a sense of pride, a
sense of style, especially with all of these yokels wearing ballcaps," he
says.
Watching old movies, he says, stoked his passion for fedoras. Now, he never
goes hatless when he's outside.
Boatright, a Fedora Lounge participant, hunts for hats on eBay and works
with custom hatters around the country. In just the past six months, he's
noticed a significant jump in fedora interest. In the summer, he paid $30
for a splendid gray Stetson Whippet fedora on eBay, a vintage hat that was
probably made in the 1940s.
He recently bid on another one, but didn't buy it. The Whippet sold for more
than $120.
[SUBHED]The hat hunt
[/SUBHED]Boatright pokes around on eBay for hats, but one thing he doesn't
do is shop for them in Denver.
The best hats, he says, were made generations ago. They were stitched
together instead of glued and their felt was made out of beaver fur. The
only contemporary hats approaching that quality are custom-made by a handful
of hatters still in business around the country.
Hats like these, he says, can't be bought in stores in many cities.
For a Front Range guy just dipping a toe into hatland, a guy who doesn't
want to muck around on eBay or spend $350 for a basic custom hat, there are
options.
One of them is Ted's Clothiers in downtown Englewood, which has been selling
men's clothes for more than 30 years.
Lined up along the front window and stacked throughout the store: fedoras,
Irish caps, tweed rain caps, bowlers - about 40 different hats in all.
Few of them would please hat connoisseurs. Most of us, however, would
probably find something cool.
"We try to carry all types of hats for all types of people," says store
employee Chris Vasilas. "Sometimes you have to pry that baseball cap off
their heads before they try something else."
Irish caps or "driving caps" are one of the most popular categories, and the
store now sells out of fedoras every season.
They started selling hats only a few years ago, when they expanded the
store, says Ted Vasilas, the shop owner. They weren't sure how the hats
would sell.
They did.
"It's the best thing I ever did for my store," says Ted Vasilas. "People
come from all over for the hats."
[TAGLINE]Staff writer Douglas Brown can be reached at 303-820-1395 or
djbrown@denverpost.com.

:cheers1:
 

Hemingway Jones

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What a great article! And nice to see some of our own be quoted there. I wouldn't be surprised if Douglas Brown joins The Lounge.

EDIT: I just where Doug Brown did join the forum to research his article. I missed it because I was in Belize. Good for him.
 

Matt Deckard

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Very cool... I knew it would be in the press in due time and now is the time.

I'm sure we'll see more aticles like this popping up all over the place and I know Fedora Lounge will be leading the charge when it comes to brining back style in men's clothing.

My hat is on to the press for picking us up.
 

Solid Citizen

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Good Article

Stories like this will do two things IMO:

1. Raise more interest in hats & the Fedora Lounge.

2. Increase auction hats prices etc..

Peter :drum:

Ps I just surfed all over Denver Post
web site, but couldn't locate article!
 

jeboat

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Denver Post hat article

A couple of weeks ago Doug Brown posted a plea for some hat buyers/collectors' insight into the selection of a hat, a REAL hat, and not a baseball cap. I answered to the post on the forum and advised him that I live here in Golden and could spend some time with him if he wanted.

He took me up on it and we met at the Hornet, a fifties type burger joint on East Broadway in Denver. We talked about 2 hours about hats and why people don't wear them much anymore and those that do as well as collect them.

His angle was he doesn't like the ubiqitous baseball cap and wonders if men will ever go back to the distinctive look of a fine fedora.

He quoted me fairly accurately as to my opinions and experience with hats of all kinds. He was just looking for some background and I filled up his question bag with an informed opinion(I hope). BTW, I took 6 hats with me and showed him the differences between new-off-the-shelf, vintage and custom hats. He was very grateful for the info even though I did not know excactly what he would print.

jim boatwright aka jeboat:cool2: :cool2: :cool2:
 

WEEGEE

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A friend at the Post

MK AND ALL...


A good friend at the post emailed it to me this morning....

I have been a newspaper photographer ...out of college for 20 years...

all us journalist float around the world and country and through time you

end up knowing someone everywhere.
 

WEEGEE

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NEXT TIME IN DENVER

JEBOAT,


NEXT time i'm in Denver lets connect.

Almost went this weekend for the Bronco Steeler game...to busy on the

home front.


So what did you think of the article...as far as what was not used?
 

MK

Founder
Staff member
Bartender
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jeboat said:
A couple of weeks ago Doug Brown posted a plea for some hat buyers/collectors' insight into the selection of a hat, a REAL hat, and not a baseball cap. I answered to the post on the forum and advised him that I live here in Golden and could spend some time with him if he wanted.

You should add that to your profile so that people will know what part of the world you are in.

I am glad you could show Douglas some good lids.
 

Fedorista

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Public service post

By Douglas Brown

Denver Post Staff Writer


He's out of money, headed to jail, loathed and ridiculed by many people who used to call him pal. But one thing former Washington lobbyist Jack Abramoff has going for him: a
good hat.

He donned the black fedora with its creased crown and gently angled brim for his post-courthouse voyage through a media gantlet one recent gray day in the District of Columbia.

Abramoff made a blizzard of bad decisions during the 21st century; floppinga ballcap on his head for his D.C. court appearance, blessedly, was not one of them. He saved that moronic move for the next day, when he exited a Florida courtroom.

From serious man in serious trouble to knucklehead yahoo in serious trouble, in the space of two days. You should have stuck with the fedora, Jack.

Back when men always wore suits, men wore honest hats instead of advertisements. Fedoras and trilbys, Panamas, derbys and homburgs; fur felt and silk, feathers and herringbone. Now, men head out for a night at the movies wearing T-shirts celebrating
Starbucks, and ballcaps shilling for Office Depot.

The sad ballcap has its proper place - in the garden, on the running trail, speckling the ballfield. But like an alien, invasive weed, it's rooted far beyond its native soil, and nearly vanquished the more dashing and complicated hats that once flourished everywhere in America.

All men, however, have the power to reject the ballcap's sweet poison and cover their heads with something else - something sharp, classy, adult.

First, though, a man in search of a hat must find a style. And then he must find a hat. Neither task is necessarily easy unless the man elects to wear a cowboy hat, a fine, storied category of lid with a range of styles. If you're the kind of guy who likes cowboy hats and can pull off the look they project, go for it.
Then there's the rest of us.

I started wearing fedoras now and again after my grandfather died and I found a stash of his hats. Gramps would put on a suit and fit a handkerchief in his breast pocket to drive to the grocery store for bread. Gramps looked like Dean Martin and dealt poker in Las Vegas back when the freeways were lined with billboards for Sinatra, Sammy Davis Jr. and Liberace. Gramps wore fedoras.

I'm no Gramps. I'm not sure if people guffaw behind my back when I pass with a fedora on my head and no complementary suit sheathing the rest of my body. If they did, I might care.

For now, I'm comfortable with certain fedora styles, definitely not the wide-brimmed "Indiana Jones" style, but instead fedoras with shorter brims - even the the style with the shortest brim, referred to as "stingy brim" - and "trilbys," an English hat that some people say is a fedora; trilbys have short brims and tapered crowns.cq

Back in style

Fedoras, especially the short-brim styles, are appearing in public again, with celebrities like Ashton Kutcher, Justin Timberlake and Donell Jones routinely wearing them. For the most part, these fellas aren't pairing suits with fedoras.

At The Fedora Lounge (www.thefedoralounge.com), a 2-year-old discussion board for lovers of men's hats, membership is growing by about 200 people a month, says Michael Key, who started the site.

Just months ago, he says, the site had several hundred members, but now it'sup to 1,600.

"I think people are getting a little bit tired of the tacky slob look," he says. "There's a certain move towards people having a more glamorous look."

For generations, he says, top hats were formalwear and bowlers, derbys and homburgs were considered casual. Early in the 20th century the boater hat - the kind of straw hat guys in barbershop quartets wear - claimed the casual look, and the homburgs, derbys and bowlers began to look more formal.

The fedora arrived somewhere in the 1920s, he says, and during the next several decades it changed, starting out with a tall crown and a narrow brim, having a wide brim and tall crown in the 1930s (the "Indiana Jones" style), and then shrinking every decade until it was short and nearly brimless in the 1960s.

It never was considered a stuffy hat, like homburgs and bowlers had become. It faded nevertheless in the 1960s, an era that brought lots of rebellion by young people against previous generations, a president from Massachusetts who didn't often wear hats, and a lot of hair - hair that people wanted to exhibit, hair that invited extreme hat-head.

Many men's hats went subterranean for decades. When they returned, they were ballcaps.

The fedora may have slipped into the shadows, but it didn't die. It's "a versatile hat, it fits into all of those camps (of formal and casual)," says Key. "That's one of the reasons it has remained popular."

Iconic look

The persistence of the fedora can be traced, too, to its identification with Hollywood icons like Humphrey Bogart and with the classy and sophisticated Golden Age of the 1930s and 1940s.

The fedora looked great on those guys, and some contemporary men say hey, if it worked then, why not now?

That's the idea behind Jim Boatright's embrace of the fedora. Boatright, 64, of Golden, a retired Lockheed Martin engineer, always wore hats, but his fondness for them increased after he retired, about five years ago. Now, he's got about 40 hats, many of them fedoras, some of them custom-made.

"Knowing you have a Borsalino on your head gives you a sense of pride, a sense of style, especially with all of these yokels wearing ballcaps," he says.

Watching old movies, he says, stoked his passion for fedoras. Now, he never goes hatless when he's outside.

Boatright, a Fedora Lounge participant, hunts for hats on eBay and works with custom hatters around the country. In just the past six months, he's noticed a significant jump in fedora interest. In the summer, he paid $30 for a splendid gray Stetson Whippet fedora on eBay, a vintage hat that was probably made in the 1940s.

He recently bid on another one, but didn't buy it. The Whippet sold for more than $120.

The hat hunt

Boatright pokes around on eBay for hats, but one thing he doesn't do is shop for them in Denver.

The best hats, he says, were made generations ago. They were stitched together instead of glued and their felt was made out of beaver fur. The only contemporary hats approaching that quality are custom-made by a handful of hatters still in business around the country.

Hats like these, he says, can't be bought in stores in many cities.

For a Front Range guy just dipping a toe into hatland, a guy who doesn'twant to muck around on eBay or spend $350 for a basic custom hat, there are options.

One of them is Ted's Clothiers in downtown Englewood, which has been selling men's clothes for more than 30 years.

Lined up along the front window and stacked throughout the store: fedoras, Irish caps, tweed rain caps, bowlers - about 40 different hats in all.

Few of them would please hat connoisseurs. Most of us, however, would probably find something cool.

"We try to carry all types of hats for all types of people," says store employee Chris Vasilas. "Sometimes you have to pry that baseball cap off their heads before they try something else."

Irish caps or "driving caps" are one of the most popular categories, and the store now sells out of fedoras every season.

They started selling hats only a few years ago, when they expanded the store, says Ted Vasilas, the shop owner. They weren't sure how the hats would sell.

They did.

"It's the best thing I ever did for my store," says Ted Vasilas. "People come from all over for the hats."



Staff writer Douglas Brown can be reached at 303-820-1395 or djbrown@denverpost.com.
 
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Boom or Bust and the big wave.

Biltmore Bob said:
The cats out of the bag...just when I'm starting to get interested in vintage hats....now everyone is going to want one. Seriously though...Oh, crap!
****************

Ditto that! I always found it was better to be up and running a head of the wave not getting caught up in it. Remember the Cigar Boom of the 80's? That took over a decade to sort out.

SIncerely,
 
John in Covina said:
****************

Ditto that! I always found it was better to be up and running a head of the wave not getting caught up in it. Remember the Cigar Boom of the 80's? That took over a decade to sort out.

SIncerely,

Both of you just remember that we will still be here long after the fad is gone. Its not a fad---its a lifestyle for most of us. ;) 1,600 people can't be wrong. :cheers1:

Regards to all,

J
 

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