DEATHS ; Notable Passings; The Thread to Pay Last Respects

[MisterCairo]

My wife and daughters just recently watched a Netflix doc on Karl Lagerfeld, one of the few male designers who actually dressed well in person. He is now gone, aged 85, and I bet having lived one hell of a life.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/karl-lagerfeld-dead-1.5024196

 

[MisterCairo]

Looking at her 'body language'..I would beg to differ...

Her "body language" says "I am in a literal headlock and cannot move". And I will trust her word on the situation over that of anyone not her, that is, not in a position to judge her feelings on the matter.

 

[LizzieMaine]

Friedman said in a 2005 interview with the Veterans History Project that it wasn't her choice to be kissed.

"The guy just came over and kissed or grabbed," she told the Library of Congress.

She added, "It was just somebody really celebrating. But it wasn't a romantic event."

Also, by his own admission, Mendonsa had "had a few drinks," which likely translates into quite a few given the number of bars-per-block around Times Square in 1945. I don't know any women who feel particularly aroused when they're randomly grabbed by a drunken sailor, no matter what the occasion.

 

[HoosierDaddy]

There is a 26-foot tall statue on the Sarasota, Florida marina named "Unconditional Surrender" modeled after the famous photograph.

HaHa...good caption....

 

[LizzieMaine]

Brooklyn Dodgers legend Don Newcombe has died at the age of 92. A hard-nosed righthander from New Jersey, Newcombe pitched a single season for the Newark Eagles of the Negro National League before joining the Brooklyn minor league system in 1946, helping the Nashua Dodgers tear up the New England League in 1946 and 47, before spending 1948 in the International League at Montreal. When he arrived at Brooklyn in 1949, he immediately established himself as one of the top power pitchers in the game, earning the National League Rookie of the Year award by running up a 32-scoreless-inning streak and helping to pitch the Dodgers to a pennant. Except for two prime years lost to military service during the Korean conflict, he remained a mainstay of the Dodger rotation for the rest of the team's days in Brooklyn. He was also one of the most outspoken players on the field when it came time for arguing with umpires, and once had the distinction of being thrown out of a game he wasn't even playing in.

He moved to Los Angeles with the club in 1958, but it was a difficult adjustment -- and an escalating alcohol habit didn't help. The Dodgers traded him to Cincinnati, who then passed him on to Cleveland, and he finally ended his pitching career in Japan, a hard-drinking shell of his former self. But he got his drinking under control, and returned to the Dodger organization in 1970 as an executive, and also contributed to the game in general as a crusader against substance abuse, helping many troubled players and former players to get their lives back under control.

Newk was also a lifetime .271 hitter who was often used as a pinch-hitter in the late innings of games when he wasn't pitching. Stick that in your DH rule.

 

[Frunobulax]

Brooklyn Dodgers legend Don Newcombe has died at the age of 92. A hard-nosed righthander from New Jersey, Newcombe pitched a single season for the Newark Eagles of the Negro National League before joining the Brooklyn minor league system in 1946, helping the Nashua Dodgers tear up the New England League in 1946 and 47, before spending 1948 in the International League at Montreal. When he arrived at Brooklyn in 1949, he immediately established himself as one of the top power pitchers in the game, earning the National League Rookie of the Year award by running up a 32-scoreless-inning streak and helping to pitch the Dodgers to a pennant. Except for two prime years lost to military service during the Korean conflict, he remained a mainstay of the Dodger rotation for the rest of the team's days in Brooklyn. He was also one of the most outspoken players on the field when it came time for arguing with umpires, and once had the distinction of being thrown out of a game he wasn't even playing in.

He moved to Los Angeles with the club in 1958, but it was a difficult adjustment -- and an escalating alcohol habit didn't help. The Dodgers traded him to Cincinnati, who then passed him on to Cleveland, and he finally ended his pitching career in Japan, a hard-drinking shell of his former self. But he got his drinking under control, and returned to the Dodger organization in 1970 as an executive, and also contributed to the game in general as a crusader against substance abuse, helping many troubled players and former players to get their lives back under control.

Newk was also a lifetime .271 hitter who was often used as a pinch-hitter in the late innings of games when he wasn't pitching. Stick that in your DH rule.

Helluva player.

Sent directly from my mind to yours.

 

[belfastboy]

Helluva player.

Sent directly from my mind to yours.

A small consolation to watching so many of my baseball heroes passing away is watching their sons and now grandsons moving up the ranks.
I was a Willy Mays/Giants fan New York and then San Fran and of course hated the Dodgers. But I did have grudging admiration for many of the Dodgers, Newc being one, the Duke, then Drysdale and Koufax.

 

[MisterCairo]

Photo journalist Peter Cosgrove has died, aged 84. He was well known for covering launches of the space shuttle.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/peter-cosgrove-nasa-100-space-shuttle-1.5025029

 

[Lean'n'mean]

It would be interesting to have a non conservative woman's opinion on this 'cause far too many fellas consider if a woman says no, she really means, yes.

My wife and daughters just recently watched a Netflix doc on Karl Lagerfeld, one of the few male designers who actually dressed well in person. He is now gone, aged 85, and I bet having lived one hell of a life.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/karl-lagerfeld-dead-1.5024196

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An icon of haute couture, his razor sharp wit, bitchy sarcasm & eccentricity certainly made for a colorful & original character. He died from pancreatic cancer in case anyone is keeping tabs.

 

[LizzieMaine]

It would be interesting to have a non conservative woman's opinion on this 'cause far too many fellas consider if a woman says no, she really means, yes.

To this non-conservative woman, "no" means "nein," ""nyet," "non," "nie," "ne," "na," "na'am," and "keyn." It also means "get your g-d hands off me if you don't want a sharpened-key tracheotomy."

 

[HudsonHawk]

Brooklyn Dodgers legend Don Newcombe has died at the age of 92. A hard-nosed righthander from New Jersey, Newcombe pitched a single season for the Newark Eagles of the Negro National League before joining the Brooklyn minor league system in 1946, helping the Nashua Dodgers tear up the New England League in 1946 and 47, before spending 1948 in the International League at Montreal. When he arrived at Brooklyn in 1949, he immediately established himself as one of the top power pitchers in the game, earning the National League Rookie of the Year award by running up a 32-scoreless-inning streak and helping to pitch the Dodgers to a pennant. Except for two prime years lost to military service during the Korean conflict, he remained a mainstay of the Dodger rotation for the rest of the team's days in Brooklyn. He was also one of the most outspoken players on the field when it came time for arguing with umpires, and once had the distinction of being thrown out of a game he wasn't even playing in.

He moved to Los Angeles with the club in 1958, but it was a difficult adjustment -- and an escalating alcohol habit didn't help. The Dodgers traded him to Cincinnati, who then passed him on to Cleveland, and he finally ended his pitching career in Japan, a hard-drinking shell of his former self. But he got his drinking under control, and returned to the Dodger organization in 1970 as an executive, and also contributed to the game in general as a crusader against substance abuse, helping many troubled players and former players to get their lives back under control.

Newk was also a lifetime .271 hitter who was often used as a pinch-hitter in the late innings of games when he wasn't pitching. Stick that in your DH rule.

Many Dodger fans refer to him as the "worst big-game pitcher ever". Newcombe famously performed poorly in all of his post season appearances, including being 0-4 with an 8.59 ERA in five World Series starts, and being on the mound with a 3-run lead in the 9th in the '51 playoff game with the Giants, which Bobby Thomson won with his famous "shot heard round the world". Of course, that's terribly unfair to a guy who had a terrific career, but Dodger fans are nothing if not bitter.

 

[LizzieMaine]

The story has it that a fan once accosted Newk on the street outside Ebbets Field after a particuarly galling loss, and made the "choke" gesture to punctuate his critique. Newcombe, without hestitation, punched him in the face.

It was a kinder, gentler time.

(Besides, we New England fans will argue that Roger Clemens was the worst big game pitcher of all time. When he goes to that great pork farm in the sky, his obituary in the Globe will read "Begged To Be Pulled In Game 6, Cost Sox Series." We know from big game pitchers, having experienced the glory of Loo-eee.)

 

[3fingers]

It would be interesting to have a non conservative woman's opinion on this 'cause far too many fellas consider if a woman says no, she really means, yes.

I would probably qualify to most people as a conservative male and I will tell you that if a woman says no it means no.
If some can't grasp that I'd say they deserve the sharpened key tracheotomy.

 

[HoosierDaddy]

What are we talking about here? Still the sailor and the nurse. Oh for cripes sake..come on. Look at the photo. She wasn't tensed up or pushing him away. She looked very relaxed and allowing it to happen within the celebration of the moment. No headlock but only cradling her head in his arm. So put your damn key away and quit flexing your muscle...

 

[Lean'n'mean]

I rest my case.

 

[OldStrummer]

Peter Tork of the Monkees, 77.

More details here

 

[Frunobulax]

Peter Tork of the Monkees, 77.

More details here

Awwww, man!

Sent directly from my mind to yours.

 

[MisterCairo]

^^^^^
Dammit, dammit, dammit, dammit, and dammit.

The number of times I had the chance to see the Monkees in one iteration or another, including the full line up, gone.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/monkees-peter-tork-obit-1.5028319

 

[seres]

^^^^^
Dammit, dammit, dammit, dammit, and dammit.

The number of times I had the chance to see the Monkees in one iteration or another, including the full line up, gone.....

I so agree... I had a chance to see Peter several years ago, and I missed it. RIP, Peter

 

[MisterCairo]

Another view of "the kiss":

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...antic-—-it-was-assault/ar-BBTWwwO?ocid=ientp2

"The Life photographer Alfred Eisenstaedt caught sight of the ecstatic sailor “running along the street grabbing any and every girl in sight.” When Mendonsa reached a woman in white, Eisenstaedt snapped four exposures, the second of which appeared two weeks later in a Life magazine spread commemorating the victory celebrations, entitled “The Men of War Kiss from Coast to Coast.”

"The body language in Eisenstaedt’s shot contrasts sharply with the photographs of consensual kissing that appeared alongside it. Other couples are pictured collapsing into each other. Women are at ease, kicking their heels or hiking their knees into the air. Their arms are not trapped against their torsos. Men do not immobilize them in headlocks. Viewing all four of Eisenstaedt’s exposures in sequence, it becomes especially clear that Zimmer was defensively pulling down her skirt, not swooning in his embrace. "