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I think you got it. Late ‘50s to mid ‘60s.
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Dating Vintage Stetsons by size tag
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I think you got it. Late ‘50s to mid ‘60s.
MikeinRome
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You are correct.
Thank you, Brent.
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Thank you, Mike.
Tranhieu248
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Hi, I have scrolled through the whole thread but still havent figured out what the date of my new boater hat, since it got the long oval tag.
Was it around the mid 50s?
Was it around the mid 50s?
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Maple leaf on sweat logo; stars on liner tip logo. Usually points to early/mid-50s.
Weatherman
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I'm going to throw these two out there for your consideration as to their vintage date.
The first hat is going to be a vintage Stratoliner which I believe dates from the mid-40s to the early 50s. I purchased the Hat pretty much crushed but I was able to steam it back into shape and make it wearable. The only real issue with the hat was the sweatband which was a bit stiff and had cracked in one spot. I was able to repair that and using a good quality leather oil, make it somewhat supple again.
Utilizing some of the sources from this forum and that I found online and looking at the size tag which says Stetson on it as well as it being the keyhole type, and then looking at the inside of the hat liner which does not have the plastic insert in the middle I believe that 40s to 50s is accurate or at least close. According to my research hat makers started using the plastic liner in hats in 1953 because of the Advent of hair gels that men started using that was staining the liner. This hat does not have that plastic on the inside. I'm including pictures of the inventory tag and number but I do believe this hat is a '40s/early fifties model.
The second hat simply says Royal Stetson although it is the same dimensions as a Stratoliner. It is a grayish color which I believe they call caribou. Notice the hat band is a bit fancy and twists on the side and is wider than the thin grosgrain hat band found on the stratoliners or the open road models. Looking at the size tag and the fact that this hat also does not have the plastic on the inside liner also indicates to me that this might be from the late 40s to very early 50s. What makes this hat really interesting is the fact that the center of the liner is purple and I've been told on other forums that this was a bit of a rarity. On both hats the design of the Stetson logo also indicates the same era, 40s to 50s. Someone else told me that this was a Playboy model although it does not say that anywhere on the Hat. The only issue with this hat was that the rear of The Sweat Band stitching had come loose but I was able to repair it by hand.
Pictures for your consideration and opinion are below. The Stratoliner is the dark brown hat and the Royal Stetson is the grayish colored hat. Thank you in advance.
I've attached the pictures of the Stratoliner to this message but I will have to attach the pictures of the Royal Stetson in a subsequent message.
The first hat is going to be a vintage Stratoliner which I believe dates from the mid-40s to the early 50s. I purchased the Hat pretty much crushed but I was able to steam it back into shape and make it wearable. The only real issue with the hat was the sweatband which was a bit stiff and had cracked in one spot. I was able to repair that and using a good quality leather oil, make it somewhat supple again.
Utilizing some of the sources from this forum and that I found online and looking at the size tag which says Stetson on it as well as it being the keyhole type, and then looking at the inside of the hat liner which does not have the plastic insert in the middle I believe that 40s to 50s is accurate or at least close. According to my research hat makers started using the plastic liner in hats in 1953 because of the Advent of hair gels that men started using that was staining the liner. This hat does not have that plastic on the inside. I'm including pictures of the inventory tag and number but I do believe this hat is a '40s/early fifties model.
The second hat simply says Royal Stetson although it is the same dimensions as a Stratoliner. It is a grayish color which I believe they call caribou. Notice the hat band is a bit fancy and twists on the side and is wider than the thin grosgrain hat band found on the stratoliners or the open road models. Looking at the size tag and the fact that this hat also does not have the plastic on the inside liner also indicates to me that this might be from the late 40s to very early 50s. What makes this hat really interesting is the fact that the center of the liner is purple and I've been told on other forums that this was a bit of a rarity. On both hats the design of the Stetson logo also indicates the same era, 40s to 50s. Someone else told me that this was a Playboy model although it does not say that anywhere on the Hat. The only issue with this hat was that the rear of The Sweat Band stitching had come loose but I was able to repair it by hand.
Pictures for your consideration and opinion are below. The Stratoliner is the dark brown hat and the Royal Stetson is the grayish colored hat. Thank you in advance.
I've attached the pictures of the Stratoliner to this message but I will have to attach the pictures of the Royal Stetson in a subsequent message.
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Louis Mountbatten
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Both appear 1940s to me.
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I think you got it about right. However, the grey hat does not have the elements of a Playboy. A Playboy usually has a stitched, not bound, brim, and the ribbon would have a different configuration.
Sometimes a hat doesn’t have a name, it's just a Royal Stetson.
Sometimes a hat doesn’t have a name, it's just a Royal Stetson.
Louis Mountbatten
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Kind of resembles the "Casual" a little bit.
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Nice hats!
Can you show the red/white or all-white size/ blocking sticker on the felt behind the sweat (usually on the other side of the seam)?
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I'll buy that for a dollar. Doesn't Eric (@Short Balding Guy) have one of those?
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Weatherman
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Thanks. I wasn't certain, someone had just mentioned that it might be.
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Those red/white single-cell stickers would put them in the ‘40s to around 1952.
Weatherman
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Thank you. Based on the size stickers and the liners and couple other things, most of which I got off of this forum, that was my impression as well. Thank you for helping to confirm. Most of my collection is from the 50s to the 70s so it's nice to every now and then get a hold of an older, vintage hat that's in decent shape. I also collect Borsalino hats and I have some that are absolutely beautiful that I will be posting on the borsalino page.
