Dating Vintage Stetsons by size tag

[M Hatman]

Have you ever seen a jobbers tag with the cm designation? Not that it matters but I'm wondering if the tag is silver (maybe metalflake) instead of plain white.

Jack, We are talking this one.....

 

[J Williams]

Have you ever seen a jobbers tag with the cm designation? Not that it matters but I'm wondering if the tag is silver (maybe metalflake) instead of plain white.

Just to confirm it's actually this hat we are referring to.

 

[Hurricane Jack]

Jack, We are talking this one.....

Just to confirm it's actually this hat we are referring to.

My apologies for not following closer.

 

[moehawk]

I am leaning towards an alternate theory that, for reasons unknown, the American factory was unable to fill that store's (and maybe others) order so they had the Canadian factory make the hats. If that is a Canadian tag, of course.
Just a theory, though.

 

[J Williams]

I am leaning towards an alternate theory that, for reasons unknown, the American factory was unable to fill that store's (and maybe others) order so they had the Canadian factory make the hats. If that is a Canadian tag, of course.
Just a theory, though.

The top two are from two of my Canadian Stetsons, top is early 50's made in the brockville factory middle is late 50's early 60's which I THINK was made in the Brockville factory and the last one is from the bay and what I believe is a Canadian size tag from a Stetson made by Biltmore.

 

[Rmccamey]

Or perhaps a re-seller/thrift store situation where the original tag was missing? Canadian seems like the most obvious solution but, as you say, when it is in-hand it may make things a lot clearer. Waiting patiently....................

I wondered about that too. For some reason it reminded me of the glued on tabs used to hold liners in place after re-blocking. I don’t know why the owner would need to have a size tag in his own hat; presumably he already knows the size, but it just has that look to me. Got to love a mystery.


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[moehawk]

I wonder if Canadian Stetsons have a version of the American black keyhole transitional tag from the mid 60's...

 

[M Hatman]

Or perhaps a re-seller/thrift store situation where the original tag was missing? Canadian seems like the most obvious solution but, as you say, when it is in-hand it may make things a lot clearer. Waiting patiently....................

Yes.....I am TRYING to be patient.....It looks like it will be in hand Monday. At least that is what USPS says..now anyway.......

 

[Frunobulax]

Yes.....I am TRYING to be patient.....It looks like it will be in hand Monday. At least that is what USPS says..now anyway.......

I'm hoping for an interior tag that sheds a little more light.

 

[Hat and Rehat]

Any info on when these Canadian tags date from? Looks very Biltmore (or Akubra even) but from a Stetson....70's (though it does have the nicer earlier liner)???
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Maybe Canada was different, but listing both size designations was more recent than that here.

 

[Hat and Rehat]

I'm hoping for an interior tag that sheds a little more light.

There is usually something, somewhere inside if you look hard enough ... Maybe a 2 chalked inside the band or under the liner. It helped to know what you were working on while one was in production.

 

[M Hatman]

This conundrum is STILL IN TRANSIT!!!! It has been lost without a scan for 4 days!!!
So this evening I look and it is finally in Missouri (Items go to St Louis area distribution centers before heading to northern Illinois). So MAY actually have in hand sometime tomorrow....maybe it went to Alaska like one of Bent's hats.........

 

[JessieJames]

I found this today. It's from a Canadian shop, it I'm understanding correctly this is 1940-50s?

 

[deadlyhandsome]

I found this today. It's from a Canadian shop, it I'm understanding correctly this is 1940-50s?

That size tag looks to be foil. It could be a Canadian made Stetson where the regular dating guides don’t apply. Can you see any indication of where it was made? Can you take a peak under the Sweatband?

 

[BobHufford]

I found this today. It's from a Canadian shop, it I'm understanding correctly this is 1940-50s?

Maybe closer to the mid-1950s. From what I’m reading “Aquanized” was only on Canadian made Stetsons.

Nice hat Jessie!

 

[JessieJames]

That size tag looks to be foil. It could be a Canadian made Stetson where the regular dating guides don’t apply. Can you see any indication of where it was made? Can you take a peak under the Sweatband?

I only thought of that later :\ the shop was closing it's not my size anyway but if it's worth something, I could sell it on the bay so that I can actually get a hat in my size.

 

[Mark Chmielewski]

Hello everyone. Along similar lines, I have been looking at this one, I know made in Norway, but I was hoping someone could help me confirm it is 1940's somehow.

 

[Frunobulax]

Hello everyone. Along similar lines, I have been looking at this one, I know made in Norway, but I was hoping someone could help me confirm it is 1940's somehow.

If we apply the same logo rules as for US made Stetsons, mid 50s or newer.

 

[Mark Chmielewski]

Thanks for that Fruno.

 

[Just Daniel]

I don’t think Stetson licensed production to Norway during WWII and probably not until after the 40s. The generally accepted dates for licensing outside the US (other than Canada) is 50s at the earliest.

The plastic on the liner is also no older than the 50s.

Hello everyone. Along similar lines, I have been looking at this one, I know made in Norway, but I was hoping someone could help me confirm it is 1940's somehow.