Custom Johnson Leathers Advice for MrFrown

[TheDonEffect]

You guys got any pics of that vermont and ranger leather?

 

[Mrfrown]

You guys got any pics of that vermont and ranger leather?

I can get you some tomorrow if someone doesn’t beat me to it

 

[Cornelius]

...and are these Vermont & Ranger leathers chrome tanned, veg. tanned, or combo?

 

[TheDonEffect]

More the merrier.

 

[Mrfrown]

He sent Chocolate and Dark Brown Vermont, and German Ranger Brown. The Vermont is veg tan but not sure about Ranger.

 

[Jin431]

You guys got any pics of that vermont and ranger leather?

Bro, just stop by JL lol ask for the Vermont they are using for my jacket. Awesome hide

 

[TheDonEffect]

Bro, just stop by JL lol ask for the Vermont they are using for my jacket. Awesome hide

Or... You could stop trying to make me go bankrupt.

 

[TheDonEffect]

Bro, just stop by JL lol ask for the Vermont they are using for my jacket. Awesome hide

... What's the specs on it? How many oz? How does it feel, drape, etc?

 

[Jin431]

Or... You could stop trying to make me go bankrupt.

... What's the specs on it? How many oz? How does it feel, drape, etc?

Everytime I go to that store I tell you hahaha it's going to be a JL version of the French cyclist/Eastman ostmann jacket, riri zips all around, light wool lining. It's midweight 2.5 oz or so like the Masaye. I should get it within a week or two but I'm guessing it will be a little stiffer than the Masaye but should still drape. I'll update you as soon as I have it on hand, with photos of course

 

[Mrfrown]

Vermont Dark Brown and Vermont Chocolate Brown both 2.5-2.75oz, and Ranger Brown German is 2.5oz.

He described the Vermont as veg tan. Not sure on the German one.

The Vermont both look like they’ll have a tea core effect as they’re not dyed all the way through, the Ranger brown is brown all the way down. I abused the Dark Brown Vermont a bit to see how it handled it, you can see where I scraped it.

Here are some pics for you to judge yourself.

Dark Brown Vermont

Chocolate Brown Vermont

German Ranger Brown

Left to right: Dark Brown Vermont, Choc Brown Vermont, German Ranger Brown

Comparing underside and sides

 

[handymike]

Gotta love samples

 

[navetsea]

from most post of JL jackets, they make consistently bigger neck hole to the jacket proportion, unless you plan to completely zip up often over shirt collar with a neck tie or over something equally chunky, probably underline that area to make them smaller. especially if you plan to spread the front into a lapel, bigger neckhole would make it it even bigger gap to your neck when part of the collar is folded down into lapel.

on that jacket model, I would like me some snaps, whether I will use it to anchor the lapel or not doesn't matter, the chest needs clutters but I agree with Carlos, row of snaps along the main zip looked redundant, either go with zip or snaps.

maybe small diamond quilt on the elbow only, or from elbow down to the back of forearm you will quickly wear them down from brushing your sleeve against desk etc, and small diamond quilt would quickly show fade pattern

 

[navetsea]

Sorry i wanted to edit my prev post to add image, but my phone said no and stuck.

 

[navetsea]

Vermont Dark Brown and Vermont Chocolate Brown both 2.5-2.75oz, and Ranger Brown German is 2.5oz.

He described the Vermont as veg tan. Not sure on the German one.

The Vermont both look like they’ll have a tea core effect as they’re not dyed all the way through, the Ranger brown is brown all the way down. I abused the Dark Brown Vermont a bit to see how it handled it, you can see where I scraped it.

Here are some pics for you to judge yourself.

Dark Brown Vermont
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waah, I don't really like the look of that suede on the vermont, maybe just that part near the belly used as sample hopefully the part used for the jacket have tighter suede.
Chocolate Brown Vermont
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German Ranger Brown
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Left to right: Dark Brown Vermont, Choc Brown Vermont, German Ranger Brown
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Comparing underside and sides
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I'm not liking the shaggy suede on the vermont, probably just this sample taken near the belly or something, but I hope the leather used is going to have tighter denser suede

 

[Mrfrown]

Thanks for the design insight @navetsea

Agree about the lapel snaps. I like the ones you pictures but perhaps not for this build. Reminiscent of buttons on a double breasted coat almost. Very cool.

As simple as your suggestion for quilting only on elbows/forearms may seem, I didn’t think of it before, but I really like it. Definitely considering. Don’t want to accidentally look like Popeye though.

Funny you mention the shaggy suede on Vermont because I had the same reaction. I haven’t handled that many hides/samples so I don’t have a large range of reference, but it did strike me as odd compared to the more uniform rough side of the German Ranger.

The more I look at it the more I like the German hide. Still undecided. Honestly I could roll dice to pick amongst these three and be happy with the result I’m sure.

 

[Jin431]

I think the hide I chose is the one they are calling dark brown Vermont. Not sure if it's the same batch though. I requested they cut the jacket in this really dark shade of almost seal brown like the sample they gave me.

The suede side on this looks more uniform and fine.

 

[Cornelius]

From the photos you've posted, I like the appearance of the "German Ranger Brown" best. Still curious whether that one is veg, chrome, or combo tanned. Given that NOLA winters can be pretty damp [when it rains in New Orleans, it RAAAAINS], that might be something for you to consider - not wearing a $1,500 sponge if you happen to get caught out in the rain.

 

[Mrfrown]

From the photos you've posted, I like the appearance of the "German Ranger Brown" best. Still curious whether that one is veg, chrome, or combo tanned. Given that NOLA winters can be pretty damp [when it rains in New Orleans, it RAAAAINS], that might be something for you to consider - not wearing a $1,500 sponge if you happen to get caught out in the rain.

This link goes to a Simmons Bilt jacket in German Ranger Brown for sale on TFL, seller indicated it’s chrome tanned.

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/simmons-bilt-tailgunner.95435/

The Simmons Bilt site includes this picture and description in their Our Leathers page:

“Ranger Brown Horsehide. 1-1.1mm, soft feel, minimal break in.”

Still waiting for reply from Damon on my last follow up email, don’t want to bombard him with more questions yet. I’m sure he’ll be able to shed more light.

 

[Goel]

The Vermont is veg tan but has some wax or oil applied to it, the German sample that I got was an aniline finish with no protection at all. I'm going with a special Vermont color however I still want to apply some wax at some point.

 

[Cornelius]

This link goes to a Simmons Bilt jacket in German Ranger Brown for sale on TFL, seller indicated it’s chrome tanned.

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/simmons-bilt-tailgunner.95435/

The Simmons Bilt site includes this picture and description in their Our Leathers page:

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“Ranger Brown Horsehide. 1-1.1mm, soft feel, minimal break in.”

Still waiting for reply from Damon on my last follow up email, don’t want to bombard him with more questions yet. I’m sure he’ll be able to shed more light.

Well Ranger Brown horsehide might be the winner then.

Thanks for the link to that SB Tailgunner - nice jacket, but I fear the sleeves might be too short for my orangutan arms.

Edit: Just noticed that classified listing is from 2018!