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[deadlyhandsome]

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[Daniele Tanto]

No disappointment here. Has a very early 20th century vibe with the tall crown and modest brim. The felt is spectacular as is the sweatband and liner. Hard to believe this hat is close to 100 years old! Heather charcoal grey with black ribbon.

Very beautiful. Very stylish. A truly interesting shape. A classic of the thirty

 

[hatsRme]

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Truly a special moment, Brent!!!! How cool is this hat!?!?!??? Your perseverance pays off.

 

[deadlyhandsome]

Truly a special moment, Brent!!!! How cool is this hat!?!?!??? Your perseverance pays off.

Thanks, Charlie. You’re able to understand how rare such a hat is in our size.

 

[deadlyhandsome]

Very beautiful. Very stylish. A truly interesting shape. A classic of the thirty

Thank you, Daniele.

 

[hatsRme]

Thanks, Charlie. You’re able to understand how rare such a hat is in our size.

Tell Max.

 

[steur]

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Absolutely wonderful, Brent. Great catch. Love the shape and felt on that one.

 

[M Hatman]

1915 or so...

 

[M Hatman]

Also about 1915.....A Poster Stamp.

 

[M Hatman]

I saw this hat on ebay and wondered if anyone here might take a stab at dating it. The $5 price tag makes me think it isn’t anything too recent.

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Holy Crap!!!!!!!!

 

[Blare]

Crofut and Knapp - Coronet Fifteen

Black Felt - 1 7/8 Black grosgrain ribbon
4 7/8 crown at highest point as bashed
1 1/2 brim with Cavanagh edge
Wind Trolley

Here is a much later entry.. my guess would be late 60’s early 70s. Has the ‘a product of Hat Corporation of America” branding on the sweat. I have a couple straws from this era I believe have this marking as well. It is the shortest brimmed hat I have in my collection at 1 1/2 inch. This hat may be short of brim.... but isn't short on features. Cavanagh edge...wind trolley and nearly 5 inch crown give it some “bells and whistles”.

inside... glued in liner... and a stamp inside the sweat. “Factory Reject”

 

[steur]

Crofut and Knapp - Coronet Fifteen

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Black Felt - 1 7/8 Black grosgrain ribbon
4 7/8 crown at highest point as bashed
1 1/2 brim with Cavanagh edge
Wind Trolley

Here is a much later entry.. my guess would be late 60’s early 70s. Has the ‘a product of Hat Corporation of America” branding on the sweat. I have a couple straws from this era I believe have this marking as well. It is the shortest brimmed hat I have in my collection at 1 1/2 inch. This hat may be short of brim.... but isn't short on features. Cavanagh edge...wind trolley and nearly 5 inch crown give it some “bells and whistles”.

inside... glued in liner... and a stamp inside the sweat. “Factory Reject”

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Very nice,Joe. It seems to have fully recovered from being stuffed in that small shipping box.

 

[Blare]

Very nice,Joe. It seems to have fully recovered from being stuffed in that small shipping box.

Haha! This was a different one... though now that I think of it... this one too came crammed in a box with two others. So maybe your memory is better than mine

 

[Rmccamey]

Crofut &Knapp Palm Grade Knapp-Felt bowler from Wideman's, Stanford and Palo Alto.
5 1/2 crown.
2 brim.
1 ribbon, flared at the rear.

This one has seen some head time, based on the sweat stains on and under the band itself, but is overall in very good condition. The felt has a smoother (not better) feel than my Kaller (Swiss?) and Mauerer (Vienna) and comparable to my 1930 Knox bowler.

Here is what I think I know. All you C&K experts, please jump in. The taped sweatband makes it pre-41. The Duplicate Code (sticker) was started sometime 1917-1922. This tag is partially hand written. Many C&K tags had what I call "beveled edges" on each corner. I found a C&K tag on a 30's fedora that was a perfect rectangle, without the beveled corners. Some years back, Alan @alanfgag posted a bowler with a tag that has the same format/layout as this one and the consensus was that his is/was a 20s or 30's model. I have found precious little on "Palm Grade". My best guess on dating is late-20's to mid-30s.

 

[Rmccamey]

C&K Palm Grade, Part II.

The small red tag has 4 digits but only the second is legible; 8. It may be 38XX, or perhaps $8xx ($8.00?)

 

[Blare]

Crofut &Knapp Palm Grade Knapp-Felt bowler from Wideman's, Stanford and Palo Alto.
5 1/2 crown.
2 brim.
1 ribbon, flared at the rear.

This one has seen some head time, based on the sweat stains on and under the band itself, but is overall in very good condition. The felt has a smoother (not better) feel than my Kaller (Swiss?) and Mauerer (Vienna) and comparable to my 1930 Knox bowler.

Here is what I think I know. All you C&K experts, please jump in. The taped sweatband makes it pre-41. The Duplicate Code (sticker) was started sometime 1917-1922. This tag is partially hand written. Many C&K tags had what I call "beveled edges" on each corner. I found a C&K tag on a 30's fedora that was a perfect rectangle, without the beveled corners. Some years back, Alan @alanfgag posted a bowler with a tag that has the same format/layout as this one and the consensus was that his is/was a 20s or 30's model. I have found precious little on "Palm Grade". My best guess on dating is late-20's to mid-30s.

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A Cool different Ribbon styling

 

[alanfgag]

Crofut &Knapp Palm Grade Knapp-Felt bowler from Wideman's, Stanford and Palo Alto.
5 1/2 crown.
2 brim.
1 ribbon, flared at the rear.

This one has seen some head time, based on the sweat stains on and under the band itself, but is overall in very good condition. The felt has a smoother (not better) feel than my Kaller (Swiss?) and Mauerer (Vienna) and comparable to my 1930 Knox bowler.

Here is what I think I know. All you C&K experts, please jump in. The taped sweatband makes it pre-41. The Duplicate Code (sticker) was started sometime 1917-1922. This tag is partially hand written. Many C&K tags had what I call "beveled edges" on each corner. I found a C&K tag on a 30's fedora that was a perfect rectangle, without the beveled corners. Some years back, Alan @alanfgag posted a bowler with a tag that has the same format/layout as this one and the consensus was that his is/was a 20s or 30's model. I have found precious little on "Palm Grade". My best guess on dating is late-20's to mid-30s.

Great addition... thanks for posting.

 

[mayserwegener]

Crofut &Knapp Palm Grade Knapp-Felt bowler from Wideman's, Stanford and Palo Alto.
5 1/2 crown.
2 brim.
1 ribbon, flared at the rear.

This one has seen some head time, based on the sweat stains on and under the band itself, but is overall in very good condition. The felt has a smoother (not better) feel than my Kaller (Swiss?) and Mauerer (Vienna) and comparable to my 1930 Knox bowler.

Here is what I think I know. All you C&K experts, please jump in. The taped sweatband makes it pre-41. The Duplicate Code (sticker) was started sometime 1917-1922. This tag is partially hand written. Many C&K tags had what I call "beveled edges" on each corner. I found a C&K tag on a 30's fedora that was a perfect rectangle, without the beveled corners. Some years back, Alan @alanfgag posted a bowler with a tag that has the same format/layout as this one and the consensus was that his is/was a 20s or 30's model. I have found precious little on "Palm Grade". My best guess on dating is late-20's to mid-30s.

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Randy, Great looking Derby! Congrats on the find!

 

[Rmccamey]

Thank you, sirs.

Great addition... thanks for posting.

Randy, Great looking Derby! Congrats on the find!

 

[DaveProc]

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