Cowboy Boots

[DJH]

Couldn’t resist these lizard Nocona boots for $35 on eBay

 

[Joao Encarnado]

That's a bargain!

 

[Bamaboots]

I posted these back in May when they first made the bay. I had no expectation of buying them as the asking price was what it would take to buy a pair of new MTM boots and they were listed as a bit small for me. I posted them because of their rarity, Frommer only makes a few pair a year with up to a 3-4 year wait and they are two piece/whole cuts/ wellingtons, take your pick. Early western boots were mostly two piece boots with no designated L or R. Frommer, somewhat of a historian, got around to making a traditional boot, with his 20th, 21st century refinements.

Only a handful of makers build this style today. Paul Krause in AZ and Lisa Sorrel in OK builds what she sometime refers to as the "high vamp" or "Sandhill" boot. A boot whose vamp and heel counter rise about two inches above where they normally do. The Sandhill boot was first developed by Blucher in an effort to help cowboys whose spur straps were wearing through the stiches on the tongue and vamp of the boot. Krause and Sorrell both went to Frommer for lessons.

Anyway, as the seller continued to drop his price, I started following just for grins. When he dropped really low, at least in my estimation, I sent the seller a note asking for a multitude of measurements. He quickly responded and we went back and forth on the measurements a number of times as he continued to drop his asking price. We got the measurements worked out and they came out much closer to a 10 so I threw an offer I expected him to decline. Well he didnt.

French calf with a 14 1/2" shaft, 2 1/4" heel and a Fleur di Lis overlay on the stovepipe tops.

 

[Hurricane Jack]

Very nice Greg! Congratulations! A very nice pair for anyone's collection. I love the look & the fact they are black & red makes them perfect! Would like to see them in person!

 

[DocCasualty]

I posted these back in May when they first made the bay. I had no expectation of buying them as the asking price was what it would take to buy a pair of new MTM boots and they were listed as a bit small for me. I posted them because of their rarity, Frommer only makes a few pair a year with up to a 3-4 year wait and they are two piece/whole cuts/ wellingtons, take your pick. Early western boots were mostly two piece boots with no designated L or R. Frommer, somewhat of a historian, got around to making a traditional boot, with his 20th, 21st century refinements.

Only a handful of makers build this style today. Paul Krause in AZ and Lisa Sorrel in OK builds what she sometime refers to as the "high vamp" or "Sandhill" boot. A boot whose vamp and heel counter rise about two inches above where they normally do. The Sandhill boot was first developed by Blucher in an effort to help cowboys whose spur straps were wearing through the stiches on the tongue and vamp of the boot. Krause and Sorrell both went to Frommer for lessons.

Anyway, as the seller continued to drop his price, I started following just for grins. When he dropped really low, at least in my estimation, I sent the seller a note asking for a multitude of measurements. He quickly responded and we went back and forth on the measurements a number of times as he continued to drop his asking price. We got the measurements worked out and they came out much closer to a 10 so I threw an offer I expected him to decline. Well he didnt.

French calf with a 14 1/2" shaft, 2 1/4" heel and a Fleur di Lis overlay on the stovepipe tops.
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I don't know what to say other than that's a real cool pair of boots. Congrats and thanks for sharing!

 

[BobHufford]

...so I threw an offer I expected him to decline. Well he didnt.

Wow! Congrats!! (so ... where in the backyard there are you planning to put the doghouse you will be living in?)

 

[Joao Encarnado]

I posted these back in May when they first made the bay. I had no expectation of buying them as the asking price was what it would take to buy a pair of new MTM boots and they were listed as a bit small for me. I posted them because of their rarity, Frommer only makes a few pair a year with up to a 3-4 year wait and they are two piece/whole cuts/ wellingtons, take your pick. Early western boots were mostly two piece boots with no designated L or R. Frommer, somewhat of a historian, got around to making a traditional boot, with his 20th, 21st century refinements.

Nice.
At least do they fit?

 

[Fading Fast]

I posted these back in May when they first made the bay. I had no expectation of buying them as the asking price was what it would take to buy a pair of new MTM boots and they were listed as a bit small for me. I posted them because of their rarity, Frommer only makes a few pair a year with up to a 3-4 year wait and they are two piece/whole cuts/ wellingtons, take your pick. Early western boots were mostly two piece boots with no designated L or R. Frommer, somewhat of a historian, got around to making a traditional boot, with his 20th, 21st century refinements.

Only a handful of makers build this style today. Paul Krause in AZ and Lisa Sorrel in OK builds what she sometime refers to as the "high vamp" or "Sandhill" boot. A boot whose vamp and heel counter rise about two inches above where they normally do. The Sandhill boot was first developed by Blucher in an effort to help cowboys whose spur straps were wearing through the stiches on the tongue and vamp of the boot. Krause and Sorrell both went to Frommer for lessons.

Anyway, as the seller continued to drop his price, I started following just for grins. When he dropped really low, at least in my estimation, I sent the seller a note asking for a multitude of measurements. He quickly responded and we went back and forth on the measurements a number of times as he continued to drop his asking price. We got the measurements worked out and they came out much closer to a 10 so I threw an offer I expected him to decline. Well he didnt.

French calf with a 14 1/2" shaft, 2 1/4" heel and a Fleur di Lis overlay on the stovepipe tops.
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Fantastic, great story and congrats. Enjoy and wear them in good health.

 

[Bamaboots]

Very nice Greg! Congratulations! A very nice pair for anyone's collection. I love the look & the fact they are black & red makes them perfect! Would like to see them in person!

Thanks, HJ. My favorite boot colors as well. Can't wait for you to see them.

I don't know what to say other than that's a real cool pair of boots. Congrats and thanks for sharing!

Thanks, Doc

Wow! Congrats!! (so ... where in the backyard there are you planning to put the doghouse you will be living in?)

Bob, I actually don't have much more in these than you do your Paul Bonds. Luckily, I had just sold a pair of ladies Tres Outlaws alligator boots at a considerable profit so Lady B let me use that money and stay in the house at the same time.

Nice.
At least do they fit?

Thanks, Joao. They do

Fantastic, great story and congrats. Enjoy and wear them in good health.

FF, thank you, sir. Good to see you hanging around here.

 

[Fading Fast]

...FF, thank you, sir. Good to see you hanging around here.

Most importantly - glad they fit.

I'm a kid from the Northeast who has lived his entire life here and has owned a total of zero cowboy boots. To wear a pair in NYC, you need to be either a transplant from a cowboy-boot-wearing part of the country or that rare person that has the presence, gravitas and force of personality to carry it off - I am not that person.

However, I appreciate the craftsmanship, culture and beauty of them and the passion you all have for the boots - it makes this thread fun. But since I have no experience with them, rarely do I have anything to add - so I just follow and enjoy.

 

[Bamaboots]

Most importantly - glad they fit.

I'm a kid from the Northeast who has lived his entire life here and has owned a total of zero cowboy boots. To wear a pair in NYC, you need to be either a transplant from a cowboy-boot-wearing part of the country or that rare person that has the presence, gravitas and force of personality to carry it off - I am not that person.

However, I appreciate the craftsmanship, culture and beauty of them and the passion you all have for the boots - it makes this thread fun. But since I have no experience with them, rarely do I have anything to add - so I just follow and enjoy.

Always enjoy your posts. Can't imagine a huge cowboy culture in NYC exists, though there seem to be pockets everywhere I go but I've never been to your neck of the woods. The PRCA hosts an annual event in Madison Square Garden. There are two stores I'm aware of and one of them is http://www.spacecowboyboots.com/. I found out about the store after reading about it somewhere long ago. I know they come up in one of my boot books. The only other one I've read about was Billy Martin's. He had a partner, agent maybe, he opened the store with and they carried higher end goods through the Urban Cowboy era, even having their own line of boots made under contract by some of the Big 3 during that time. I'm not sure if they even exist anymore.

If you make a trip to or have been in Space Cowboy, perhaps you will post us a review. Might even get you in a pair of cowboy boots.

 

[Fading Fast]

Always enjoy your posts. Can't imagine a huge cowboy culture in NYC exists, though there seem to be pockets everywhere I go but I've never been to your neck of the woods. The PRCA hosts an annual event in Madison Square Garden. There are two stores I'm aware of and one of them is http://www.spacecowboyboots.com/. I found out about the store after reading about it somewhere long ago. I know they come up in one of my boot books. The only other one I've read about was Billy Martin's. He had a partner, agent maybe, he opened the store with and they carried higher end goods through the Urban Cowboy era, even having their own line of boots made under contract by some of the Big 3 during that time. I'm not sure if they even exist anymore.

If you make a trip to or have been in Space Cowboy, perhaps you will post us a review. Might even get you in a pair of cowboy boots.

With our 10+ million people (or whatever the count is now), there's a subculture of everything in this city and I definitely see cowboy boots here and there. A lot of times they're on what appear to be out-of-towners here on business or pleasure. In my business, I've been in more than one meeting with the "oil boys" from Houston where cowboy boots and some serious belt buckles have made an appearance.

I checked out Space Cowboy Boots (odd name - no?) on-line just now and the selection looks good. They are in a part of town I don't get to often, but when I do, I'll peak in and and report back.

At 6'1", 150lbs., blue-eyed with light brown hair and a complexion just this side of Casper the Friendly Ghost - I know my sartorial limitations and anything that speaks of serious machismo is out. Nothing looks worse than the out-of-shape guy in a muscle shirt, the short guy wearing lifts or, in my case, the guy who gets sand kicked in his face on the beach wearing anything "bad-ass." Though, I am sporting a nice pair of Seavee sneakers today and - to toughen up the image - I'm not wearing any socks .

 

[RJR]

With our 10+ million people (or whatever the count is now), there's a subculture of everything in this city and I definitely see cowboy boots here and there. A lot of times they're on what appear to be out-of-towners here on business or pleasure. In my business, I've been in more than one meeting with the "oil boys" from Houston where cowboy boots and some serious belt buckles have made an appearance.

I checked out Space Cowboy Boots (odd name - no?) on-line just now and the selection looks good. They are in a part of town I don't get to often, but when I do, I'll peak in and and report back.

At 6'1", 150lbs., blue-eyed with light brown hair and a complexion just this side of Casper the Friendly Ghost - I know my sartorial limitations and anything that speaks of serious machismo is out. Nothing looks worse than the out-of-shape guy in a muscle shirt, the short guy wearing lifts or, in my case, the guy who gets sand kicked in his face on the beach wearing anything "bad-ass." Though, I am sporting a nice pair of Seavee sneakers today and - to toughen up the image - I'm not wearing any socks .

 

[dh66]

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Da-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-ammmmmnnnnn, Cuz!

Patience pays off. Those look great! I need to head up soon to see those in person.

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[Seraph1227]

The New Isis Theater has been vacant since 1988. I don't know when those posters were installed there.

There are plenty of stores that sell those brands within a short walk, and there is a local connection since Justin Boots (A Berkshire Hathaway company, like Nocona and Tony Lama) is a Fort Worth company.

The Justin outlet is on Vickery, pass it on my way to work in downtown Ft. Worth

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[Mercer]

I was just thinking . . . I've heard it said that Tony Lama boots aren't as good as they used to be. Apparently this has been the case at least since Berkshire Hathaway bought Justin Industries (which owns Tony Lama). But what about the time after Tony Lama was bought by Justin but well before Justin was bought by Berkshire Hathaway? I ask because I discovered a pair of Tony Lama boots on eBay which date back to 1991, and I'm finding them rather tempting despite the fact that all I currently own are Lucchese boots (1 pair of Classics, 2 pairs of Brown Label Since 1883) plus a pair of Red Wing Pecos boots (style 1155).

 

[DJH]

The Justin outlet is on Vickery, pass it on my way to work in downtown Ft. Worth

Yes, I call by there every once in a while. I have some ostrich Nocona boots I bought at the outlet (which I’m wearing today as it happens) and also got my daughter some boots when she was visiting from NYC.

To the best of my knowledge, she’s never worn them in New York [emoji3]

 

[Stringmaster]

I posted these back in May when they first made the bay. I had no expectation of buying them as the asking price was what it would take to buy a pair of new MTM boots and they were listed as a bit small for me. I posted them because of their rarity, Frommer only makes a few pair a year with up to a 3-4 year wait and they are two piece/whole cuts/ wellingtons, take your pick. Early western boots were mostly two piece boots with no designated L or R. Frommer, somewhat of a historian, got around to making a traditional boot, with his 20th, 21st century refinements.

Only a handful of makers build this style today. Paul Krause in AZ and Lisa Sorrel in OK builds what she sometime refers to as the "high vamp" or "Sandhill" boot. A boot whose vamp and heel counter rise about two inches above where they normally do. The Sandhill boot was first developed by Blucher in an effort to help cowboys whose spur straps were wearing through the stiches on the tongue and vamp of the boot. Krause and Sorrell both went to Frommer for lessons.

Anyway, as the seller continued to drop his price, I started following just for grins. When he dropped really low, at least in my estimation, I sent the seller a note asking for a multitude of measurements. He quickly responded and we went back and forth on the measurements a number of times as he continued to drop his asking price. We got the measurements worked out and they came out much closer to a 10 so I threw an offer I expected him to decline. Well he didnt.

French calf with a 14 1/2" shaft, 2 1/4" heel and a Fleur di Lis overlay on the stovepipe tops.
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Nice score! I looked hard at the Frommer boots way back when I got my Viers boots----certainly one of the best makers!

 

[Seraph1227]

I haven't the slightest clue why, but recently I've had a desire to purchase a pair of cowboy boots.

It really doesn't fit with my style, which is exclusively khakis, collared shirt, fedora, but it is one of those itches... :kick:

I am just lucky I haven't happened across my size yet. How bad an idea is it? I was hoping I could depend on The Fedora Lounge to finally convince me not to go through with it and drop the idea all together.

I have the exact pair in the pics. I have no problems with s$%@kickers. Here in Texas it's quite acceptable to pair them with suits. Don't be confined by others sense of style

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[Seraph1227]

I went through a cowboy faze awhile back. I did'nt take, Tight pants, and sharp toed boots are hard to work in. And I live in Texas where every third person dresses like that. Cowboy hats are hard to wear in a vehicle with a head rest. Real Cowboys, well thats another thing altogether. They spend most of the day outside and in the saddle. There's a saying down here that refers to a wanna be, "He's all hat, and no cattle!" Cowboy boots can be stylish, but for me they are part of an ensemble.

That is so true, took the headrest off my truck seat. Never use it anyway

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