Cordovan Allens??

[moustache]

I have shown these off a few times and adore them.But i'm a bit new to the shoe game and was noticing that the Allen-Edmonds catalog lists the "Macneil" as available in regular calf and also cordovan.
By this photo,are these cordovan??I know where cordovan comes from and the process.But i have not seen it on shoes yet.
Seems a VERY sturdy leathe and hardy as can be.These don't need polishing and are in splendid condition.

Thoughts??

 

[herringbonekid]

i'd say definately not. i have a pair of cordovan shoes (below) and they have a smooth very dark burgundy-brown waxy finish with a deep sheen. they don't have the grained surface.

cheers.

 

[moustache]

i'd say definately not. i have a pair of cordovan shoes (below) and they have a smooth very dark burgundy-brown waxy finish with a deep sheen. they don't have the grained surface.

cheers.

Thanks so much for the information.yet another factoid to store in the melon above!!!
The shoes might not be cordovan,but they sure feel nice and look splendid!

Regards,

JD

 

[Tomasso]

Great Shoes!

By this photo,are these cordovan?

As hbk noted, they are calf. And, they do need care. Cream and wax.

 

[AlanC]

Not cordovan as stated, but the grained calf finish is interesting. I don't believe they are offered in that leather any longer. Those are clearly meant to compete with the old Florsheim Kenmoor longwing in 'cashmere calf' as they called it.

 

[moustache]

Hmmm

Not cordovan as stated, but the grained calf finish is interesting. I don't believe they are offered in that leather any longer. Those are clearly meant to compete with the old Florsheim Kenmoor longwing in 'cashmere calf' as they called it.

I admit i have seen very few with this grain for sale on the usual sites such as Eprey and the like.
I really like the texture and the sturdiness of these shoes.Very well made.

JD

 

[undertaker]

Florshiem

Florshiem still offers the newer Imperials in Black and Brown in a calf grain finish. I believe they call it some kind of pebble grain or some such. However they do not offer it in cordovan. They only offer cordovan in the smooth finish. I was going to order me a new pair in the cordovan but they do not seem to be as well built as my old ones, What is anymore though ?

Regards,
J.S.

 

[The Shooman]

Cordovan shoos will have a smooth [slightly] oily feel to them (they have NO grain). The creases are also wider and less sharp than normal calfskin. The leather is also richer looking than ordinary calf.

Study this Cordovan boot below and you'll see what l mean about wide creases:

http://centipede.web.fc2.com/jbhill.html

 

[Orgetorix]

Cordovan shoos will have a smooth [slightly] oily feel to them (they have NO grain). The creases are also wider and less sharp than normal calfskin. The leather is also richer looking than ordinary calf.

Study this Cordovan boot below and you'll see what l mean about wide creases:

http://centipede.web.fc2.com/jbhill.html

I think folks on this thread may be referring to different things by the word 'cordovan.' Shooman is referring to a specific type of leather or hide that's made from a horse's posterior, not from cow leather, and that has the characteristics he mentioned. This kind of leather can be dyed to any color that shoes are normally found in.

Others (Undertaker, perhaps) may be referring to a color that, in the US at least, is sometimes called "cordovan" and also known as burgundy, merlot, or oxblood. I'm not sure how this color came to be called cordovan, but I suspect that people got used to seeing the classic burgundy cordovan penny loafer and eventually came to associate "cordovan" with the color rather than the material.