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Just as a sidenote.

I still consume Ibuprofen 600 from a box with 6/2021 deadline and they still got some active agent! :) Whoever tells you, Ibu got no active agent left, three years after deadline: BS.
 

Edward

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Funny this thread should pop up again this week. I've had a run of it medically these last few months. In the Summer I experienced a number of bouts of extreme abdominal pain. Not quite as bad as when I had the kidney stone in '10, but enough to keep me in bed for two to three days at a time, not able to eat or do much else. Eventually after *all* the tests (including a biopsy on an unusual lump in my throat that was ruled benign, though I'll be called back in a couple of years for a review, I was diagnosed with two hefty gallstones, half an inch wide each. Medical advice was removal of my gallbladder. Went in in early January for what should have been a simple day surgery....

When I came round, they told me they'd abandoned the removal because of the state of my liver - if they'd gone ahead it could have cause a "fatal bleed". Then seven weeks' wait to see a liver specialist... Upshot is, I have non-alcoholic liver cirrhosis that was not previously detected. My liver appears to be past the point of any hope that it could regenerate, though it *is* still in the "compensation" stage. If I stick to the diet and exercise more and lose weight, they tell me I should live "decades". (That would at least take me to 70, which is about the time I enter a statistical probability some form of cancer will get me, based on family history.) If I develop symptoms, I then have about five years left to live, unless I am put forward for a transplant. It might just be fine - giving up alcohol isn't a big deal for me, never been a big drinker, and we'd already started to make a lot of the necessary changes to my diet. Psychologically, though, I'm' finding it a lot to take on board - in some ways I wonder if I might have coped better with a shorter term big risk that, once dealt with, would be over. At least, though, with the NHS I'm not looking at huge financial implications at this point, and I will be monitored for any signs of progress once every six months (in part because I'm now at an enhanced risk of liver cancers).

So, yeah. All the fun of the fair here.
 

Jon Crow

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Funny this thread should pop up again this week. I've had a run of it medically these last few months. In the Summer I experienced a number of bouts of extreme abdominal pain. Not quite as bad as when I had the kidney stone in '10, but enough to keep me in bed for two to three days at a time, not able to eat or do much else. Eventually after *all* the tests (including a biopsy on an unusual lump in my throat that was ruled benign, though I'll be called back in a couple of years for a review, I was diagnosed with two hefty gallstones, half an inch wide each. Medical advice was removal of my gallbladder. Went in in early January for what should have been a simple day surgery....

When I came round, they told me they'd abandoned the removal because of the state of my liver - if they'd gone ahead it could have cause a "fatal bleed". Then seven weeks' wait to see a liver specialist... Upshot is, I have non-alcoholic liver cirrhosis that was not previously detected. My liver appears to be past the point of any hope that it could regenerate, though it *is* still in the "compensation" stage. If I stick to the diet and exercise more and lose weight, they tell me I should live "decades". (That would at least take me to 70, which is about the time I enter a statistical probability some form of cancer will get me, based on family history.) If I develop symptoms, I then have about five years left to live, unless I am put forward for a transplant. It might just be fine - giving up alcohol isn't a big deal for me, never been a big drinker, and we'd already started to make a lot of the necessary changes to my diet. Psychologically, though, I'm' finding it a lot to take on board - in some ways I wonder if I might have coped better with a shorter term big risk that, once dealt with, would be over. At least, though, with the NHS I'm not looking at huge financial implications at this point, and I will be monitored for any signs of progress once every six months (in part because I'm now at an enhanced risk of liver cancers).

So, yeah. All the fun of the fair here.
Take it easy ok Edward, I like a drink but not overboard like some in my family, my Irish father for example, 79 and still drinks and smokes, bit of a Keef from the Stones :/
 

rogueclimber

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Funny this thread should pop up again this week. I've had a run of it medically these last few months. In the Summer I experienced a number of bouts of extreme abdominal pain. Not quite as bad as when I had the kidney stone in '10, but enough to keep me in bed for two to three days at a time, not able to eat or do much else. Eventually after *all* the tests (including a biopsy on an unusual lump in my throat that was ruled benign, though I'll be called back in a couple of years for a review, I was diagnosed with two hefty gallstones, half an inch wide each. Medical advice was removal of my gallbladder. Went in in early January for what should have been a simple day surgery....

When I came round, they told me they'd abandoned the removal because of the state of my liver - if they'd gone ahead it could have cause a "fatal bleed". Then seven weeks' wait to see a liver specialist... Upshot is, I have non-alcoholic liver cirrhosis that was not previously detected. My liver appears to be past the point of any hope that it could regenerate, though it *is* still in the "compensation" stage. If I stick to the diet and exercise more and lose weight, they tell me I should live "decades". (That would at least take me to 70, which is about the time I enter a statistical probability some form of cancer will get me, based on family history.) If I develop symptoms, I then have about five years left to live, unless I am put forward for a transplant. It might just be fine - giving up alcohol isn't a big deal for me, never been a big drinker, and we'd already started to make a lot of the necessary changes to my diet. Psychologically, though, I'm' finding it a lot to take on board - in some ways I wonder if I might have coped better with a shorter term big risk that, once dealt with, would be over. At least, though, with the NHS I'm not looking at huge financial implications at this point, and I will be monitored for any signs of progress once every six months (in part because I'm now at an enhanced risk of liver cancers).

So, yeah. All the fun of the fair here.

Our bodies betraying us as we all age... Stay strong and live well and long!
 

Edward

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Take it easy ok Edward, I like a drink but not overboard like some in my family, my Irish father for example, 79 and still drinks and smokes, bit of a Keef from the Stones :/

It's an odd one: everybody knows about alcohol-induced cirrhosis, but the non-alcoholic version was news to me. I've never been much of a drinker, really - the closest I've been to a binge was probably 14 units over three weeks last Christmas - that's a quarter to a third of the recommended healthy ceiling. Of course, I've been completely on the wagon since the start of January with the op. I don't mind that much, but I do miss my beloved energy drinks. Eh, well. If only we were all made of the same stuff as Keef!

Our bodies betraying us as we all age... Stay strong and live well and long!

I forget sometimes I'm not 21 any more - don't feel any different on the inside, but I sure feel a late night the next morning now!
 
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...Of course, I've been completely on the wagon since the start of January with the op. I don't mind that much, but I do miss my beloved energy drinks. Eh, well. If only we were all made of the same stuff as Keef!
My best friend for the last 50-ish years got "hooked" on energy drinks several years ago. He began to develop stomach problems, and his doctor ordered him to stop the energy drinks and switch to water or fruit juices. He did, for a while, then after a couple of years tried another energy drink, and got so sick that he finally swore off of them for good. Yeah, Keef is an example of what not to do in some instances, and what you can get away with if you're lucky in others. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

Jon Crow

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It's an odd one: everybody knows about alcohol-induced cirrhosis, but the non-alcoholic version was news to me. I've never been much of a drinker, really - the closest I've been to a binge was probably 14 units over three weeks last Christmas - that's a quarter to a third of the recommended healthy ceiling. Of course, I've been completely on the wagon since the start of January with the op. I don't mind that much, but I do miss my beloved energy drinks. Eh, well. If only we were all made of the same stuff as Keef!



I forget sometimes I'm not 21 any more - don't feel any different on the inside, but I sure feel a late night the next morning now!
Aye not many are made like Keef! Or my old man haha
 

Jon Crow

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It's an odd one: everybody knows about alcohol-induced cirrhosis, but the non-alcoholic version was news to me. I've never been much of a drinker, really - the closest I've been to a binge was probably 14 units over three weeks last Christmas - that's a quarter to a third of the recommended healthy ceiling. Of course, I've been completely on the wagon since the start of January with the op. I don't mind that much, but I do miss my beloved energy drinks. Eh, well. If only we were all made of the same stuff as Keef!



I forget sometimes I'm not 21 any more - don't feel any different on the inside, but I sure feel a late night the next morning now!
Same, at my age now, if I did a good session now the hangover would feel like minor surgery haha not like when I was younger, Spain is such a bad temptation :p the Mrs anyway now tells me off and regulates me, especially coffees, " remember your hypertension "
 

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