Casablanca 'style' white Tuxedo / Dinner Jacket

[chanteuseCarey]

WH1, thanks for the info...

Will have to watch SofTTM again just to see these...

On the trousers have you talked with Magnoli and Matt Deckard? Or looked on evilBay for vintage tuxedos?

Just finished watching Song Of The Thin Man this evening and it is full of amazing dinner jacket both single and double breasted. Also where does one find tuxedo trousers that have the silohouette (sp?) you see in the Newport Casino illustration, they are outstanding?

 

[chanteuseCarey]

Great plane, nice jacket too

Is this from "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom"? If so, it is my least fave of the original trilogy, and I only saw it once when it was in the theaters...

did anyone post this guy?

 

[WH1]

Is this from "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom"? If so, it is my least fave of the original trilogy, and I only saw it once when it was in the theaters...

Yes it is and wholeheartedly agree, Kate Capshaw screeching "Indy" every 10 seconds is enough to make one jam popcorn in the ears:eusa_doh:

As to trousers I am seriously looking at ordering both the Casablanca style dinner jacket and trousers from Indy, I recently ordered a Gittes suit and am eagerly awaiting its arrival.

Song of the thin man has some great evening clothes and it is just a good show.

 

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I recently ordered a Gittes suit and am eagerly awaiting its arrival.

Pix of it would be nice...

 

[WH1]

Pix of it would be nice...

I will take pictures in Europe this summer along with my new Art Fawcett shaped Panama hat I was fortunate enough to purchase from Bob C recently. Now if I can only find a nice pair of linen and leather spectators!

 

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Now if I can only find a nice pair of linen and leather spectators!

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[Forgotten Man]

The Indy movies were made in the late 70s and early 80s… some costumes are authentic but most are not.

A single breasted peak lapel cream/white coat was mostly likely a suit coat originally. I have never seen any ads for such a dinner jacket in any catalog from the period. Hollywood often puts things on the leading cast that they feel looks better then what is accurate… trust me, I know and it makes me upset. I’ve worked on sets before and we the extras are often times correct and the principals are not.

 

[PADDY]

INDY (Harrison) looks awful in this outfit.

It looks totally out of balance, not just for 'the period' it is trying to represent, but 'any' period...PERIOD

A DB would have been period accurate, and actually I hazard a guess that IJ would have looked better for it.

Also, the black waistcoat with white DJ combo is an insult to one's eyes - it just doesn't look good folks.

Whereas, Bogey in Casablanca, in a white/cream DB-DJ...cuts a dash like the true blade of a man that he is

 

[Feraud]

I’ve worked on sets before and we the extras are often times correct and the principals are not.

I share this observation and particularly in Westerns.

 

[Marc Chevalier]

A DB would have been period accurate, and actually I hazard a guess that IJ would have looked better for it.

But consider this, Paddy: IJ is wearing his white dinner jacket in an action sequence. It would have been far more difficult for him to run around, jump around, etc. in a buttoned double-breasted jacket, rather than an unbuttoned single-breasted one. True, he could have run around in an unbuttoned double-breasted, but it would have flapped all over the place and looked bad.



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[Forgotten Man]

I share this observation and particularly in Westerns.

Oh yes, very true!

It looks totally out of balance, not just for 'the period' it is trying to represent, but 'any' period...PERIOD

A DB would have been period accurate, and actually I hazard a guess that IJ would have looked better for it.

Also, the black waistcoat with white DJ combo is an insult to one's eyes - it just doesn't look good folks.

Whereas, Bogey in Casablanca, in a white/cream DB-DJ...cuts a dash like the true blade of a man that he is

I agree with ya Paddy, Indy looks as if he forgot his black tux coat and just picked up a cream summer suit coat. The correct coat to wear with a black waistcoat and black tux pants is a black tux coat. Now, if he wore a black or red cummerbund and a short mess jacket, that would be correct and authentic to the period as well.

 

[Forgotten Man]

But consider this, Paddy: IJ is wearing his white dinner jacket in an action sequence. It would have been far more difficult for him to run around, jump around, etc. in a buttoned double-breasted jacket, rather than an unbuttoned single-breasted one. True, he could have run around in an unbuttoned double-breasted, but it would have flapped all over the place and looked bad.



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A mess jacket would have been a better choice.

 

[Marc Chevalier]

... if he wore a black or red cummerbund and a short mess jacket, that would be correct and authentic to the period as well.

True, but 1984's moviegoing audience would have thought that he looked like a waiter on an oceanliner or something.

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[Marc Chevalier]

A mess jacket would have been a better choice.

Yes indeed, but see my post above.

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[Forgotten Man]

True, but 1984's moviegoing audience would have thought that he looked like a waiter on an oceanliner or something.

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Well, the general public are asleep to anything not modern... Ashley wore a beautiful green felt hat she got at the expo a few weeks ago and wore her matching green gloves with a nice dress to a car show with me last weekend... some men thought she was an airline stewardess...:eusa_doh: I don't know about some people these days.

Hang what people "might" think... do what's correct and you'll always come out on top in the end!

 

[Marc Chevalier]

Hang what people "might" think... do what's correct and you'll always come out on top in the end!

That's the opposite of Hollywood! lol


It's because of Hollywood that we have these clothing stereotypes about eras. Pinstripe d/b suits ... pointy collar shirts ... spectator shoes. Hollywood would have us think that men wore nothing else in the '30s!


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[Forgotten Man]

That's the opposite of Hollywood! lol


It's because of Hollywood that we have these clothing stereotypes about eras. Pinstripe d/b suits ... pointy collar shirts ... spectator shoes. Hollywood would have us think that men wore nothing else in the '30s!


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I know, hang Hollywood! They've ruined many a good movie due to bad costumes... that stuff gets under my skin... and it ain't new either. All the period styled films from the 30s to the 50s are just as bad if not worse! Just the movies taking place in the current time they were made are fantastic.

 

[avedwards]

But consider this, Paddy: IJ is wearing his white dinner jacket in an action sequence. It would have been far more difficult for him to run around, jump around, etc. in a buttoned double-breasted jacket, rather than an unbuttoned single-breasted one. True, he could have run around in an unbuttoned double-breasted, but it would have flapped all over the place and looked bad.



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What about a black single breasted dinner jacket? Should be period accurate, at least in 1930s films they are worn. Would have been equally practical for the action sequences.

 

[Djupis]

It's because of Hollywood that we have these clothing stereotypes about eras. Pinstripe d/b suits ... pointy collar shirts ... spectator shoes. Hollywood would have us think that men wore nothing else in the '30s!
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They didn't!?

Oh, and I couldn't help but think of this, after all that talk about mess jackets:

Jeeves would not approve.

 

[Marc Chevalier]

Forgotten Man, do I miss your knowledge and posts around here! A lot was lost when you left. Glad you're back, but wish I could learn more from you and see more photos of your collection.

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