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Interesting. Very informative.Although the brim flange does indeed begin and dictate the "cupping" , if you are edge binding, and you did not pre-shrink your ribbon, and if your closed loop was a touch on the small side; once baste stitched in place, what was minor cupping can become extream. And it becomes very obvious at the end, in the last few inches of basting. That is where I say, no, scrap this piece, let me make another. Especially if a person wants a flatter brim, with less curl. And obviously using a flange with minimum curl is a factor to start. Even relaxing the flanging with steam afterward, and before binding. But like I said, mimimul curl on a flange, and a tight closed loop basted onto it , will make that flanged brim seriously altered/cupped, if some attention isn't paid in the process; to create that look from the start, this is from a custom point of view.