Buco j27 jackets - originals and repros

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The Brooks, Ralph Edwards and Reed PJ and J-27 STYLE jackets that I have seen have been subtly different from the Buco ones e.g. two handwarmer pockets, single belt loops or no belt loops, squarer chest pocket flap, stud cuffs on the ralph Edwards etc.)

Plumbline, can you clarify what you mean by 'single belt loops' as a discerning difference between originals and some copies? Those originals that do feature belt loops (which seem to be many, if not most) have what I would consider single belt loops. I know you have something in mind but I'm having a hard time visualizing it.

 

[Plumbline]

The single width belt loops are about 1/2-3/4" wide ( similar in style to those seen on the PJ-27 ) the generally had a stud fastener at the top ... the double width loops ( pic of the J-27 in post 27) are as shown on the J-27 and J-15 which are about 1 3/4" - 2" wide and were a fixed feature on the jacket ( sewn in) and not studded

 

[trapp]

Plumbline...Thanks.

This is interesting: a Japanese site features these pics of a PJ-27 that appears to have a very early label that may place it in the 40s. And speaking of mouton collars....

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No idea if the mouton collar is original..

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From a different Japanese site.

Anyone hazard a guess on the price listed on that tag?

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I love this shot of the pocket.

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[Schnur_bohnen]

I just joined up and enjoyed catching up on this thread (though it seems to have dropped off the map). I purchased a vintage Schott J-27 jacket about 2 years ago, but ended up parting with it because the size was a bit on the small side for me. Several months later, found a Ralph Edwards model on the 'bay and grabbed that one. It has been a fantastic jacket, but one that I have found sits in the closet most of the time with me often grabbing lighter-weight leather out the door.

As such, I've decided to attempt selling it off and moving on to something else...what that is time will tell. I'll be putting up an ad here in the Classifieds but it's also on ebay right now. For the purposes of this thread being a depository for all things PJ-27, I'll embed the pics of my jacket here for all those wishing to reference the ralph edwards version.

 

[jonbuilder]

Here is an Appalachian style simial to the PJ-27 based on the teardrop zip pull from the 60s after Buco came out with the PJ-27 in the late 40s
Not mine if I remember correctly it was not my size although I like it as well as any Buco PJs I've seen

uco PJ-27

 

[jonbuilder]

Buco PJ-27 with flap pocket only no side entry pocket this was my sold long ago do the leather issues horsehide
I had Johnson Leathers shorten the sleeves do to rot at the end of the cuffs