'BRAZIL' -- SPOILERS! SPOILERS!

[Dr Doran]

I had seen and liked this movie but I finally got the DVD in the mail today and I am terribly impressed. It is so very appropriate for the Fedora Lounge. A black comedy about a vintage dystopian future. Perhaps there have been other threads about it.

One of the many many things I found interesting about it:
It's a 1980s take of a 1930s vision of the (ugly) future.
Here is my question.
What other films are there depicting a future AS seen by a particular era? Both films from a given era and films from ONE era (such as the 1980s) showing a future that would have been imagined in another era (in this case, the 1930s)?
Do you get what I'm asking?

 

[dr greg]

hard to say

I can't think of another one, Brazil is a masterpiece, especially with the CORRECT ORIGINAL ending, others such as Sky Captain have some visual cues from it, but your direct question has me stumped.

 

[Matt Deckard]

Funny... I just found one of my Brazil DVDs in my pile today. Part of the cryterion collection. Leider es ist nicht the original ending version which I prefer as well..

 

[Quigley Brown]

I was never really sure if Brazil set in the future or just some sort of parallel thingy...

If that's the case then Jean-Pierre Jeunet's 'Delicatessen' would fall into this category.

 

[Quigley Brown]

Funny... I just found one of my Brazil DVDs in my pile today. Part of the cryterion collection. Leider es ist nicht the original ending version which I prefer as well..

The Criterion Edition's fifty buck price tag has prevented me from buying it!

 

[BeBopBaby]

I was never really sure if Brazil set in the future or just some sort of parallel thingy...

If that's the case then Jean-Pierre Jeunet's 'Delicatessen' would fall into this category.

Does Jeunet's other movie City of Lost Children count as well?

 

[dhermann1]

"1984"
"Metropolis"
"Things to Come" (UK "The Shape of Things to Come")
All 3 must flicks. Get the new restored version of Metropolis.
I think "Brazil" is unique in showing the future as seen from the past as viewed from the present.

 

[cookie]

Brazil and the Good Shepherd

That is not the film I saw late one night with the old geezer in the Palm Beach style clobber in Rio who relives his life around Copacabana in the
1930s?

I have read a lot about espionage pre and post WWII and love it.

Can anyone tell me if that film is about JJ (Jim) Angleton? - because it seems to miss the crucial aspect of his life or if it does it is very confusing?

Why was it so long? Why was it so boring?

 

[Dr Doran]

I think "Brazil" is unique in showing the future as seen from the past as viewed from the present.

I hope it ISN'T unique!

 

[Dr Doran]

Get the new restored version of Metropolis.

Now THAT sounds amazing. I haven't seen any version of that film in 20 years.

 

[dhermann1]

No, this Brazil was by Terry Gilliam, of Monty Python fame, and Tom Stoppard, made in 1985. Our hero, Sam, works in the Ministry of Information (MOI), typing on a huge linotype like machine with a screen that looks like a large magnifying lens. His mother keeps getting plastic surgery till there's nothing left of her. Bob Hoskins plays a demented ductwork guy. Very very surreal and disturbing. Sam wears wonderful mid 1930's suits. His mother wears a hat that looks like a shoe.

 

[Miss Neecerie]

No, this Brazil was by Terry Gilliam, of Monty Python fame, and Tom Stoppard, made in 1985. Our hero, Sam, works in the Ministry of Information (MOI), typing on a huge linotype like machine with a screen that looks like a large magnifying lens. His mother keeps getting plastic surgery till there's nothing left of her. Bob Hoskins plays a demented ductwork guy. Very very surreal and disturbing. Sam wears wonderful mid 1930's suits. His mother wears a hat that looks like a shoe.

*giggles terribly*

This is the absolute BEST description I have ever heard anyone attempt at describing Brazil.

You sir, get many bonus points.

 

[Dr Doran]

No, this Brazil was by Terry Gilliam, of Monty Python fame, and Tom Stoppard, made in 1985. Our hero, Sam, works in the Ministry of Information (MOI), typing on a huge linotype like machine with a screen that looks like a large magnifying lens. His mother keeps getting plastic surgery till there's nothing left of her. Bob Hoskins plays a demented ductwork guy. Very very surreal and disturbing. Sam wears wonderful mid 1930's suits. His mother wears a hat that looks like a shoe.

Yes, marvelously concise.

 

[Dr Doran]

Does Jeunet's other movie City of Lost Children count as well?

Yes, I think so. Someone saw my haircut last week (30s cut, top slicked straight back and then tapered down to a zero on the sides and back) and said, "you are very Cite des Enfants Perdus" which I was pleased to hear.

 

[jake_fink]

Sky Captain has a retro-future thing going, but it also has a Jude Law thing and a Gwyneth Paltrow thing and a nonesensical very boring script thing going too, so watch with caution (preferably drunk). It's no Brazil, true dat.

 

[griffer]

Blade Runner is being re-issued in a box set with 5 version of the film.

This is fantasticnews, and possibly the film fits in this vein.

It's image is dystopic, but hearkens to both film noir and cyber punk.

 

[Dr Doran]

Sky Captain: Beautiful movie visually but I agree that the human element was bunk. Especially since there were only 3 or four humans in the entire film!

Blade Runner: well, THAT is in a class by itself --

 

[griffer]

Blade Runner: well, THAT is in a class by itself --

Don't need to tell me.

If 'Griffer' is taken, than I put the machine on myself 'VKgriffer'.

Voight-Kampf pops up in other places.

As does 9732.

My wife and I are thinking of being Rick and Rachel for Halloween.

Here's one for you- it has been suggested that 'Deckard' was named after Descartes, 'Cogito ergo sum'. Wouldn't expect less from PKD.

 

[Dr Doran]

"Io non so perche mi salvo la vita.
Forse, in quegli ultimi momenti, amava la vita. Non solo la sua vita, ma la vita di chiunque -- la mia vita.
Tutto cio che voleva erano le stesse risposte noi tutti vogliamo: da dove vengo, dove vado, quanto mi resta ancora.
Non ho potuto far altro che restar, e li guardarlo morire."

- Deckard (in the voiceover version)(translated into Italian)(when Baty dies)

 

[Jack Scorpion]

I had to take a Philosophy course in college. After our segment on Descartes, all I could think about was Blade Runner. Somehow, that really clarified all the uncut Unicorn sequences and oragami animals.

I never put the names together though.