Blackened Brown Vicenza Horsehide same as Teacore?

[Maitiu]

Greetings fellow leather jacket addicts.

I'm in need of some information and opinions if the BBVH does the same thing as the Teacore leathers?

And could anyone possibly tell me some of the best teacore leathers I should be looking for?

Pics of either kinds of those leathers you may have, and info you may have about either or of these leathers be greatly appreciated! Thanks so much everyone!

 

[jacketjunkie]

From my understanding, teacore is a term created by the leather jacket industry to describe leather which is dyed black but not dyed through, so basically a black coat on a brownish natural hide. Even though not all manufacturers use that term, it is applyable to any manufacturers hide that is not dyed through in black but only has a black coating. For example Aeros Horween Black CLX leathers are technically teacore even though they don't use that term to describe them.

Some may argue the teacore term is only applyable to hides which have been dyed brown in a first step and then overdyed in black in a second step, but imho that's wrong. The whole point of teacore leather is the way it wears, the black fading and the brown showing through. You'll have that term-specific wear with either process. The term is linked to the visual effect, not the production step which achieved it.

tldr; yes, blackened brown Vicenza does the same thing, it technically is teacore leather. Other nice options are Shinki (not all black Shinki is teacore though, there also is Shinki that is dyed through as some people prefer their jackets to not age at increased rate. Be wary there!), most of the Horween stuff as offered by the respective manufacturers and pretty much any other hide where there's a brown base under the black, no matter how the manufacturer in question names it.

 

[nick123]

I think that's right Jacketjunkie.

 

[Lebowski]

From my understanding, teacore is a term created by the leather jacket industry to describe leather which is dyed black but not dyed through, so basically a black coat on a brownish natural hide. Even though not all manufacturers use that term, it is applyable to any manufacturers hide that is not dyed through in black but only has a black coating. For example Aeros Horween Black CLX leathers are technically teacore even though they don't use that term to describe them.

Some may argue the teacore term is only applyable to hides which have been dyed brown in a first step and then overdyed in black in a second step, but imho that's wrong. The whole point of teacore leather is the way it wears, the black fading and the brown showing through. You'll have that term-specific wear with either process. The term is linked to the visual effect, not the production step which achieved it.

tldr; yes, blackened brown Vicenza does the same thing, it technically is teacore leather. Other nice options are Shinki (not all black Shinki is teacore though, there also is Shinki that is dyed through as some people prefer their jackets to not age at increased rate. Be wary there!), most of the Horween stuff as offered by the respective manufacturers and pretty much any other hide where there's a brown base under the black, no matter how the manufacturer in question names it.

Exactly.

 

[Monitor]

From my understanding, teacore is a term created by the leather jacket industry to describe leather which is dyed black but not dyed through, so basically a black coat on a brownish natural hide. Even though not all manufacturers use that term, it is applyable to any manufacturers hide that is not dyed through in black but only has a black coating. For example Aeros Horween Black CLX leathers are technically teacore even though they don't use that term to describe them.

Some may argue the teacore term is only applyable to hides which have been dyed brown in a first step and then overdyed in black in a second step, but imho that's wrong. The whole point of teacore leather is the way it wears, the black fading and the brown showing through. You'll have that term-specific wear with either process. The term is linked to the visual effect, not the production step which achieved it.

tldr; yes, blackened brown Vicenza does the same thing, it technically is teacore leather. Other nice options are Shinki (not all black Shinki is teacore though, there also is Shinki that is dyed through as some people prefer their jackets to not age at increased rate. Be wary there!), most of the Horween stuff as offered by the respective manufacturers and pretty much any other hide where there's a brown base under the black, no matter how the manufacturer in question names it.

That's exactly how I understood the term.

 

[Blackadder]

Agree save that the leather must be veg tanned or combination tanned or it would be blueish-core. The reason they have a black overcoat on a dyed mid brown leather is because they want the tea-core to come out sharper and faster. The much coveted tea-core Red Wing 2268 PT83, PT91 are just simply not dyed thru and not chrome tanned.

 

[Maitiu]

I forgot to get back to this thread to thank you fine gentlemen for the information. Very much appreciated! Thanks again!