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[BobHufford]

View attachment 262492 View attachment 262493 How to know if a Stetson from 40s or 50s?
I found two of my stetsons both have same style size tag, but difference inside.
Or any details shows it's from 40s?
I believe I can learn here.

I think that white inventory/size tag in the first pic started in 1952 (or thereabouts) based on what I have read on the forum.

 

[Rmccamey]

About when did Resistol drop the Byer Rolnick labelling?

 

[deadlyhandsome]

About when did Resistol drop the Byer Rolnick labelling?

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I believe it was 1968, but I’ve also read 1967.

 

[Rmccamey]

Excellent, thank you Brent.

I believe it was 1968, but I’ve also read 1967.

 

[BIGG SHOW]

Hello all,
Just looking for a few thoughts on whether or not The Akubra Banjo Paterson lid lends itself to the look of a quote on quote cowboy hat. Yes, I know it’s technically not one but... what is the overall style it “shouts out” if that makes sense? Anyone?

Cheers!

 

[HuangCheng]

I think that white inventory/size tag in the first pic started in 1952 (or thereabouts) based on what I have read on the forum.

Thanks man, So the red size tag inside should be 40s?
I guess that after I have more Stetsons,Do we have any article on forum?

 

[deadlyhandsome]

Hello all,
Just looking for a few thoughts on whether or not The Akubra Banjo Paterson lid lends itself to the look of a quote on quote cowboy hat. Yes, I know it’s technically not one but... what is the overall style it “shouts out” if that makes sense? Anyone?

Cheers!

I think it all depends on how you shape it and wear it. There isn’t anything that defines a western...more of the “you know it when you see it.” Put in a cattleman’s crease and pair it with western garb and it’s a western. I think the leather hat band precludes it from being a “fedora” or dress hat, but it’s roots are in the outdoorsy adventure hat vein and that is the look that comes most naturally to it. To me, on its own and how I usually see them shaped it doesn’t look like what I think of when I hear “cowboy hat.”

 

[deadlyhandsome]

Thanks man, So the red size tag inside should be 40s?
I guess that after I have more Stetsons,Do we have any article on forum?

Have you looked through the “Links to Important Hat Forum Threads?”

 

[belfastboy]

I think it all depends on how you shape it and wear it. There isn’t anything that defines a western...more of the “you know it when you see it.” Put in a cattleman’s crease and pair it with western garb and it’s a western. I think the leather hat band precludes it from being a “fedora” or dress hat, but it’s roots are in the outdoorsy adventure hat vein and that is the look that comes most naturally to it. To me, on its own and how I usually see them shaped it doesn’t look like what I think of when I hear “cowboy hat.”

Yes, I agree with this. To me they sit in a separate category between Fedora and Western.... I wear mine for outdoorsy activities in the fall and winter. Hiking, out and about in the rain.....kind of Country Gentlemens hat. I have that type of hat with both leather band and ribbon. The ribbon gives it a slightly more 'dressy' look than the leather.

 

[dkstott]

I definitely don't think it has any western feel to it. My Banjo Patterson is my hiking, yard work and general purpose hat

 

[jlee562]

To Joe Public on the street who doesn't know anything about hats? Maybe.

To anyone in Australia or somewhere where Cowboy hats are common? Not likely.

 

[Silver-Wolf]

To us Aussies it's a country/bush hat style hat that's only a little bit cowboy/western depending on if you style it that way.

It is a little bit dress/little bit work as I think it's from the Akubra Heritage range which is a slightly different felt to the normal hard wearing imperial. Not what most stockman or ringers would wear but some may, maybe more for going out though than for work.

That said here in Australia we don't really call the style of hat your talking about as "Western" or Cowboy", we refer to them as Outback or Stockman hats mostly, maybe Ringers/Drovers. little more complicated here and it kind of depends how deep into the outback you go. When referring to if it's a mans or woman's western/cowboy hat we'd call it a Jackaroo or Jillaroo's Or maybe a Bloke or Sheilas.

Also a lot of stockman don't style their hat in the typical "Western" as alot of Aussies don't curl up the sides of the brim, some do but whats more common is the front and back bent and worn really low. Those that do style "western" more from American influence and the idea of cowboy/western.

So a lot of urban Aussies or what some refer to as New Australians would find the Banjo Paterson interesting and relate to it as an Aussie hat because of the historical value of the name given to it. Banjo Patterson Was an Aussie bush poet, a well known figure from history here but not really outback or anything to do with cattle other than his poetry, most people don't even know he was actually a solicitor. But he did enjoy the bush, that's different to the open planes outback

 

[johnnycanuck]

Hello all,
Just looking for a few thoughts on whether or not The Akubra Banjo Paterson lid lends itself to the look of a quote on quote cowboy hat. Yes, I know it’s technically not one but... what is the overall style it “shouts out” if that makes sense? Anyone?

Cheers!

Short brim, flat brim, tapered crown, oval crease with front dents. No I don’t think anyone in North America would mistaken the banjo Paterson with a cowboy hat. Possibly a fedora but not cowboy. I always thought of it as the Akubra/Australian version of the Stetsons Open Roads intended market. Cattle boss, little country/little city. Not very Yee Hah if you know what I mean.
Johnny

 

[Silver-Wolf]

I always thought of it as the Akubra/Australian version of the Stetsons Open Roads intended market. Cattle boss, little country/little city. Not very Yee Hah if you know what I mean.
Johnny

Well put, it's a good hat and certainly a popular one. Good all rounder and a nice felt too being heritage.

While not being that different in size the Coolabah would be more outback/stockman styled, slightly higher crown (gets real hot outback)center crease where as from memory the Banjo is kinda of tear drop and pinched. Coolabah slightly wider brim and is one of my fav Akubra's. Harder wearing and stiffer being the imperial felt, no idea if they put more shellac into the differing felts or not.

 

[BIGG SHOW]

Thank you all for the input. It is appreciated.

Cheers!

 

[HuangCheng]

Have you looked through the “Links to Important Hat Forum Threads?”

I went to the threads, very enjoy it . It's appreciated.

 

[FlyFishing]

I was curious the best method for getting the brim to lay flat on a boater would be? I have used steam and water on some shantung straw and coated straw hats but I'm afraid steam or water will damage the uncoated natural straw on the boater. This particular boater probably doesn't have much value, but I'd like to give it some more wear time.

 

[georgie girl]

I wonder if it was cleaned/refurbished at some point and the size tag added. Or a hat collector had it in a stack and when moving them found the size tag on the floor and just stuck it back in this hat for safe keeping.

you know Bob, I was just looking at Huston's size tags, sweatbands dating page and saw this photo... different company, but same tag... did stetson make hats for anybody else during the 20's/30's?

 

[deadlyhandsome]

I was curious the best method for getting the brim to lay flat on a boater would be? I have used steam and water on some shantung straw and coated straw hats but I'm afraid steam or water will damage the uncoated natural straw on the boater. This particular boater probably doesn't have much value, but I'd like to give it some more wear time.

I’ve used a misting of water and steam and immediately put it in a brim press. Stacking heavy books on the brim so it dries flat works too. The water and steam didn’t seem to harm my boaters.

 

[HuangCheng]

Does Stetson always write "open road" on an open road?
I got these two ORs, the size tag shows they are the 60s
One shows open road 7x, another one just shows 7X
Is it means anything different?
The left one is tougher but smoother, the right one is softer but not that smooth.