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[Just Daniel]

Great hat!

There is a Stratoliner thread with more info on the Stetson model, but it has been a long while since I have read through it. Here it is:

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/the-stratoliner-society-vintage.8329/

The hat looks wonderful! It is for sure pre-60s as Vic says, just based on exactly what he mentions - the size tag is a 50s tag at the latest.

It also has more than a few conflicting indicators that make it tough to pinpoint. The liner looks like an earlier 40s era liner with no plastic on the cover and stars in the Stetson crest. The sweatband is brown and finely stamped but shows the maple leaf in the crest - usually a sign of a 50s era hat.

A lot of these characteristics got mixed together in production, and the stars-to-maple-leaf-crest-transition is a matter or serious debate and really hard to pin down. A semi-consensus (at best) puts the transition date at 1952 or so.

Here are two more threads you might enjoy on the topic, dating Stetsons by size tag and by liner:

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/dating-vintage-stetsons-by-liner-a-field-guide.32679/

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/dating-vintage-stetsons-by-size-tag.46483/

Have fun!

Not sure if this is the correct thread to post this question but: Will you folks date this hat for me? It is in excellent condition so I think it is not very old? Purple lining. Royal Stetson. Stratoliner. 2 1/2" brim. As shown the crown is about 4" high. It is a small size and I do not know the code on the size tag; perhaps a 6 3/4? Is the correct color name Gray? Thank you for the help.

 

[deadlyhandsome]

A prop from the lost episode of Star Trek called "The Trouble With Trilbies".

My favorite episode!


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[keith1940]

Thanks everyone. I am putting this hat in the Classifieds "For Sale". Regards.

 

[Just Daniel]

Good luck, on the sale side of things it is in another interesting corner - a very popular hat, but in the small size not a lot of guys can wear it. It’s a toss up.

Good luck!

Thanks everyone. I am putting this hat in the Classifieds "For Sale". Regards.

 

[keith1940]

Thank you. Understood on the small size. I think I priced it OK allowing for the few that would be able wear it. Perhaps a girl friend, wife or a young man? Thanks again, this is a nice, friendly forum. keith

 

[moehawk]

My favorite episode!


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It's my fave too!
I wonder if that hat growls at Klingons...

 

[Zombie_61]

A prop from the lost episode of Star Trek called "The Trouble With Trilbies".

Are you sure? It doesn't look like Kirk's hat.

 

[moehawk]

Are you sure? It doesn't look like Kirk's hat.

The Trilbies were the invasive species that took everything over, remember?
Digging that Vulcan pinch.

 

[jlee562]

Are you sure? It doesn't look like Kirk's hat.

I've really gotta get on acquiring that long hair, I just asked a buddy of mine if he wanted to do Star Trek Las Vegas next year....

 

[Cornshucker77]

I hear good things about Hatters Supply House so I’d give them a look. You should be able to order your actual size if you are reblocking without removing the sweatband. Of course, you won’t get quite as good results as the block will be slightly loose, but most of us are pleased with how it comes out. The good part about buying new from a hat supply store is you can ask the employees these questions and get expert advice. You also get the option of getting a matching flange and band block.


https://hatterssupplyhouse.com/hat-blocks/


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I agree. I have purchased sweatbands and ribbon from there, and I can vouch favorably for those purchases. Reasonable prices, and good quality, but I don't know anything about their blocks. But if you need ribbon and SB's they are a very good choice. I guess I should have directed this to Randy. @Rmccamey

 

[Cornshucker77]

Manilla cardstock keyhole tag, probably 40's-50's.

I have a similar liner in my Junior Cowboy:

From what can see, I like Jared. It looks new! Very nice.

 

[Cornshucker77]

Thanks just cleaning and reshaping without removing the sweatband.

Hey Randy I should have mentioned @Rockwater. Jim makes great hat blocks that are a piece of art. I have one. Jim is great to work with and does amazing work.

 

[Rmccamey]

Even better, if I could get a custom piece of art at the same time, what a neat idea!

Hey Randy I should have mentioned @Rockwater. Jim makes great hat blocks that are a piece of art. I have one. Jim is great to work with and does amazing work.

 

[Cornshucker77]

Even better, if I could get a custom piece of art at the same time, what a neat idea!

Jim will do right by you. I'm sure you would be happy with it.

 

[Wyldkarma]

Any tips / tricks to use Tapatalk? I keep trying to use it, but the website seems quicker for me. Web loads images faster than the app does when using my phone. Chronology is easier on the website too. Many here swear by Tapatalk but I just dont see it....

 

[Rmccamey]

OK, another "dating" question. I ran across this Stetson SB. Looks like maybe a 70's model. I want to say it is an OR but the crown seems a bit too tall, so maybe it is a Western model. The odd thing is that it has the logo on the liner and the JBS Royal Stetson on the sweat but nothing else. The sweat is completely blank otherwise; no name, numbers, store of purchase...completely blank. Any idea on what this might be?

 

[deadlyhandsome]

OK, another "dating" question. I ran across this Stetson SB. Looks like maybe a 70's model. I want to say it is an OR but the crown seems a bit too tall, so maybe it is a Western model. The odd thing is that it has the logo on the liner and the JBS Royal Stetson on the sweat but nothing else. The sweat is completely blank otherwise; no name, numbers, store of purchase...completely blank. Any idea on what this might be?

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That liner and sweat look older than the 1970s to me. I associate that liner with the green with hats from the late ‘50s to the early ‘60s. Hopefully someone with real knowledge will give us both an answer.

I can say with absolute certainty that I like it!


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[Frunobulax]

OK, another "dating" question. I ran across this Stetson SB. Looks like maybe a 70's model. I want to say it is an OR but the crown seems a bit too tall, so maybe it is a Western model. The odd thing is that it has the logo on the liner and the JBS Royal Stetson on the sweat but nothing else. The sweat is completely blank otherwise; no name, numbers, store of purchase...completely blank. Any idea on what this might be?

What are the dimensions?

That liner and sweat look older than the 1970s to me. I associate that liner with the green with hats from the late ‘50s to the early ‘60s. Hopefully someone with real knowledge will give us both an answer.

I can say with absolute certainty that I like it!


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^^^^^^^What he said. Late 50s, early 60s.

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[Just A Hat Rack]

Any tips / tricks to use Tapatalk? I keep trying to use it, but the website seems quicker for me. Web loads images faster than the app does when using my phone. Chronology is easier on the website too. Many here swear by Tapatalk but I just dont see it....

It really comes down to personal preference. I was reluctant when I started using Tapatalk, but came to prefer it over the web version. I like not having to click from page to page. Everything is seamless scrolling, which is to my preference. I also find uploading pictures to be easier as well. It's not perfect by any means, but I like it.

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[jlee562]

Once upon a time I had (and sold here) a grey OR-ish like hat with the same liner and sweat. I think late 50's-60's is probably the best guess.

I lean more towards the "if it's not marked, it's not" camp.