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ChicagoWayVito

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Looking for details on wind trolley button diameters. I just purchased a professional grommet/button press for doing curtain grommets and then i realized with the proper dies i could probably make wind trolley buttons. So looking for information to know which did set i should get. What are the diameters of your wind trolley buttons?
 

humanshoes

One Too Many
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Looking for details on wind trolley button diameters. I just purchased a professional grommet/button press for doing curtain grommets and then i realized with the proper dies i could probably make wind trolley buttons. So looking for information to know which did set i should get. What are the diameters of your wind trolley buttons?
My vintage wind/trolley buttons range from 9mm to 10mm. I've looked at the dies and would be comfortable with either the #16L or #18L. About 9mm and 10mm respectively. My modern Akubra button is at about 12mm with the fabric.
 

ChicagoWayVito

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My vintage wind/trolley buttons range from 9mm to 10mm. I've looked at the dies and would be comfortable with either the #16L or #18L. About 9mm and 10mm respectively. My modern Akubra button is at about 12mm with the fabric.
Thanks Rick! I will see if my particular press has dies for those button sizes.
 

ChicagoWayVito

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You're welcome. I don't have the right press so I've been using the Dritz buttons. Definitely can't achieve the perfect, finished results your press will give you.
Hey Rick, what press do you have? I have a press by Rowley Co they don't offer size 16 button dies but CS Osborne makes the dies for their own machine and the shank can be machined down to fit. It looks like a site called Workroom Buttons will get me a turned set for $85 plus shipping. www.workroombuttons.com i haven't contacted them get as I am waiting to hear back from www.homesewingdepot.com on their cost for a turned die set. Anyway, if you have a press there might be a way to get a die set for it.
 

humanshoes

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Hey Rick, what press do you have? I have a press by Rowley Co they don't offer size 16 button dies but CS Osborne makes the dies for their own machine and the shank can be machined down to fit. It looks like a site called Workroom Buttons will get me a turned set for $85 plus shipping. www.workroombuttons.com i haven't contacted them get as I am waiting to hear back from www.homesewingdepot.com on their cost for a turned die set. Anyway, if you have a press there might be a way to get a die set for it.
I have an antique press that I use for rivet and snap setting for my leather work and I also have an arbor press from Harbor Freight that I've had my local machinist specialize for leather die stamping. I just ordered a set of the Osborne 16L button dies and they will go straight to the machinist when they arrive, but I can't see spending $200+ for the Osborne press when I can do a workaround for a fraction of the cost.
 

Bill Hughes

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So I’m gonna send out a couple of hats to be refurbished. Is there a way to remove the tags so they don’t get destroyed?

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drmaxtejeda

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So I’m gonna send out a couple of hats to be refurbished. Is there a way to remove the tags so they don’t get destroyed?

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I told Ignacio "cuidado con las etiquetas" the first time I took a hat to him, and he rolled his eyes as if saying "of course". Every hat has had them in place when he returns it, so I assume hatters know how to take care of them, Bill. Ask yours?

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Bill Hughes

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I told Ignacio "cuidado con las etiquetas" the first time I took a hat to him, and he rolled his eyes as if saying "of course". Every hat has had them in place when he returns it, so I assume hatters know how to take care of them, Bill. Ask yours?

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There must be some hatter trick to do it. Bob at Black Sheep has returned the labels to me after he did the refurb.

My only experience has been loosing the tags during the cleaning process. If I knew a way to remove them before sending them off I would. I’d use double sided tape to re-install after being refurbished.
 

Dm101

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Question: is replacing the leather sweatband work something more....absorbative, easy? I definitely will need to replace the leather with something to soak up the sweat.
I'll also be removing the liner to make the Amish a bit cooler in the summer.
May take a trip up to NYC to see Kevin and get vent holes punched into my hat as well...

Opinions, ideas?

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Steinbockhase

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Question: is replacing the leather sweatband work something more....absorbative, easy? I definitely will need to replace the leather with something to soak up the sweat.
I'll also be removing the liner to make the Amish a bit cooler in the summer.
May take a trip up to NYC to see Kevin and get vent holes punched into my hat as well...

Opinions, ideas?

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How about another hat for the summer time?
Maybe a light weight felt, without liner, which already has holes?
Better yet, a straw hat; best for really hot weather.
Does it have to be new? You will probably get better quality for less money buying an older vintage hat.
Check the offers for vintage hats on eBay; now (winter) is the best time to buy summer hats (demand and prices will go up towards summer).
 

Dm101

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How about another hat for the summer time?
Maybe a light weight felt, without liner, which already has holes?
Better yet, a straw hat; best for really hot weather.
Does it have to be new? You will probably get better quality for less money buying an older vintage hat.
Check the offers for vintage hats on eBay; now (winter) is the best time to buy summer hats (demand and prices will go up towards summer).
Hmm...I will have to see if they make an Amish style hat in black straw then.
If not...I'm boned.
I'm very much a one-hat-man...but I'm willing to explore my options.

What I may actually do is get a second Amish hat to modify that's a little smaller than my head size and remove the sweatband then stretch it slightly. That way, the hat absorbs the sweat...and it still fits tight. Then I'll get the micro holes punched in it.

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Just A Hat Rack

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Hmm...I will have to see if they make an Amish style hat in black straw then.
If not...I'm boned.
I'm very much a one-hat-man...but I'm willing to explore my options.

What I may actually do is get a second Amish hat to modify that's a little smaller than my head size and remove the sweatband then stretch it slightly. That way, the hat absorbs the sweat...and it still fits tight. Then I'll get the micro holes punched in it.

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It's not black, it's not dressy, and it's not Amish per se, but SunBody hats offer an economical option for straws. They're super easy to shape and reshape, and provide plenty of shade. You can find a plethora of information in the SunBody Association thread.

Here's one specific hat that may be up your alley:
https://www.sunbody.com/index.cfm/product/56_3/sam-houston.cfm
 

Atanasov03

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Hi. I am new at Fedora Lounge.
I recently bought a hat on a flea market, and after some research i learned it's an open crown hat. The last owner knows nothing about this hat (except the fact that it belonged to his father). I am from Brazil and we don't have many experienced hat makers around anymore. I don't know if it's an open crown homburg or a fedora. Could you guys help me out here ? I'm pretty sure it's a fur felt hat. It is also too soft for a derby. The brand of the hat is Cury. And i heard it was pretty famous here in Brazil from the 1920's to 1950's. Although i wasn't able to find anything about it, the name on the sweat band and hat interior may be of the hat store.
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Atanasov03

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Hi. I am new at Fedora Lounge.
I recently bought a hat on a flea market, and after some research i learned it's an open crown hat. The last owner knows nothing about this hat (except the fact that it belonged to his father). I am from Brazil and we don't have many experienced hat makers around anymore. I don't know if it's an open crown homburg or a fedora. Could you guys help me out here ? I'm pretty sure it's a fur felt hat. It is also too soft for a derby.
 

jlee562

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Hi. I am new at Fedora Lounge.
I recently bought a hat on a flea market, and after some research i learned it's an open crown hat. The last owner knows nothing about this hat (except the fact that it belonged to his father). I am from Brazil and we don't have many experienced hat makers around anymore. I don't know if it's an open crown homburg or a fedora. Could you guys help me out here ? I'm pretty sure it's a fur felt hat. It is also too soft for a derby. The brand of the hat is Cury. And i heard it was pretty famous here in Brazil from the 1920's to 1950's. Although i wasn't able to find anything about it, the name on the sweat band and hat interior may be of the hat store. View attachment 152083 View attachment 152084 View attachment 152084 View attachment 152085 View attachment 152086 View attachment 152087

Back bow fedora, probably from around the 60's.

Cury is believed to have been the source for the felt used in the original Herbert Johnson hat used in Raiders of the Lost Ark.
 

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