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[John the Swede]

I figure if the establishment doesn’t offer a place to securely leave my hat it is implied that they must want me to wear it indoors. The problem, for me, is finding the balance between good manners and outdated rules of etiquette. I do believe in having good manners, but since so few people wear hats the rules for them are really nebulous except for a few circumstances (e.g., funerals, National Anthems, entering another’s home, etc.). Doffing and tipping one’s hat often comes across as pretentious or even bizarre. We don’t live in the Golden Era and not all of the rules of etiquette from 1930 translate well into 2018.

Ditto on these observations.

 

[deadlyhandsome]

I've actually had friends and family members question why I remove my hat or cap at certain times--sitting down for a meal in a restaurant, entering someone's home, and so on. They're aware that some form of hat etiquette existed decades ago but, with a few exceptions, have a hard time believing anyone would care about those rules now. None of them wear hats regularly so I can't blame them for not knowing, but I do think they're representative of the number of people who don't care about hats one way or another unless they're blocking their view in a movie theater or at a sports event. So is wearing a hat at the wrong time still bad manners or poor etiquette if no one around us knows it's bad manners or poor etiquette?

Etiquette needs to serve some function other than proving that you know arcane rules. If no one truly cares and it doesn’t impact others than it’s all up to whatever you’re comfortable with. Even if nobody cares if I remove my hat for the national anthem I’m still going to do it, but I no longer have a compulsion to remove my cover as soon as I cross a threshold. I think it’s nice to know some of the basic formal rules just in case you find yourself attending a grand ball with visiting royalty (I know you run in some rarified company Sir Zombie).

 

[AbbaDatDeHat]

Personally, i think i would thoroughly enjoy a “conversation” with someone who tells me i should remove my hat indoors.
Pretty sure my “glass house” would still be standing. Ha idk
B

 

[drmaxtejeda]

Etiquette needs to serve some function other than proving that you know arcane rules. If no one truly cares and it doesn’t impact others than it’s all up to whatever you’re comfortable with. Even if nobody cares if I remove my hat for the national anthem I’m still going to do it, but I no longer have a compulsion to remove my cover as soon as I cross a threshold. I think it’s nice to know some of the basic formal rules just in case you find yourself attending a grand ball with visiting royalty (I know you run in some rarified company Sir Zombie).

I've noticed that people I am not familiar with like it when I remove my hat when addressing them.

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[Zombie_61]

Etiquette needs to serve some function other than proving that you know arcane rules. If no one truly cares and it doesn’t impact others than it’s all up to whatever you’re comfortable with. Even if nobody cares if I remove my hat for the national anthem I’m still going to do it, but I no longer have a compulsion to remove my cover as soon as I cross a threshold. I think it’s nice to know some of the basic formal rules just in case you find yourself attending a grand ball with visiting royalty (I know you run in some rarified company Sir Zombie).

I agree, and continue to adhere to certain hat etiquette rules (as I understand them) as I see fit regardless of what anyone says. The funny thing is that I get a form of "gut feeling" that tells me when not to wear my hat; if it feels wrong, the hat comes off. Habits carried over from a past life when wearing hats was far more common? Beats me. But I do know when I grabbed my brand new freshly creased Fed IV and put it on my head for the first time 10 years ago, it felt as natural as breathing, as if I'd been doing it my entire life. And 10 years later I still get that same feeling most of the time when donning a chapeau. So I trust my gut, and 99.9% of the time it serves me well...especially when I'm rubbin' elbows with them snooty royal folk.

 

[Redfokker]

Gasp! Good thing Emily Post isn’t still around.

I’m trying to wear my hats more often and I figure if the establishment doesn’t offer a place to securely leave my hat it is implied that they must want me to wear it indoors. The problem, for me, is finding the balance between good manners and outdated rules of etiquette. I do believe in having good manners, but since so few people wear hats the rules for them are really nebulous except for a few circumstances (e.g., funerals, National Anthems, entering another’s home, etc.). Doffing and tipping one’s hat often comes across as pretentious or even bizarre. We don’t live in the Golden Era and not all of the rules of etiquette from 1930 translate well into 2018.


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Maybe we should, civility is sadly lacking in today's society IMHO.

 

[Redfokker]

Personally, i think i would thoroughly enjoy a “conversation” with someone who tells me i should remove my hat indoors.
Pretty sure my “glass house” would still be standing. Ha idk
B

They were probably ex-military, rules for removing your "cover" carry over in later life.

 

[Redfokker]

If you really want to throw someone for a loop, remove your hat in an elevator when a lady is present. I always get a "look" when I do that. The idea was not to scare the fair sex in an enclosed space.

 

[M Hatman]

If you really want to throw someone for a loop, remove your hat in an elevator when a lady is present. I always get a "look" when I do that. The idea was not to scare the fair sex in an enclosed space.

BUT then, NOWADAYS she may be scared......thinking you are about to put the hat over her face..
M

 

[Zoukatron]

As far as hat etiquette in the modern day is concerned, I think treating your hat like any other piece of outerwear is the most sensible option. Nowhere to hang your coat? Not rwally much of an option to hang up your hat then. On the other hand, wearing a hat to a nice sit-down dinner at a friend's house would feel just a rude as keeping your coat on.

 

[Zoukatron]

What's the crown size/height on the Akubra "Fedora" open crown - anybody know? And how does it rate height-wise to the Campdraft open crown? Thanks

This may be a little late, but the Fedora (daft name for a specific hat model) is about 14cm (5.5") tall vs the Campdraft's 15cm (nearly 6"). Apparently the Fedora is the same height as the Fed IV according to Hatsdirect. The Fedora is significantly more tapered than either. I love it, it is my go to hat most of the time if it's cool enough for felt. I just wish Akubra made it in more than three colours.

 

[John the Swede]

This may be a little late, but the Fedora (daft name for a specific hat model) is about 14cm (5.5") tall vs the Campdraft's 15cm (nearly 6"). Apparently the Fedora is the same height as the Fed IV according to Hatsdirect. The Fedora is significantly more tapered than either. I love it, it is my go to hat most of the time if it's cool enough for felt. I just wish Akubra made it in more than three colours.

Thank you. I like the taller crown, so maybe the Campdraft is for me.

Can anyone tell me the big differences between a Campdraft and Stratoliner? I have the latter in caribou - to me they seem similar (granted, I do not have a Campdraft, only photos, ergo the question).

 

[Zoukatron]

I just got my first Campdraft, I might prefer the crown on it to the Fedora too, still a damn nice hat.

 

[John the Swede]

I just got my first Campdraft, I might prefer the crown on it to the Fedora too, still a damn nice hat.

What color did you get, if I may ask?

 

[Zombie_61]

...Can anyone tell me the big differences between a Campdraft and Stratoliner? I have the latter in caribou - to me they seem similar (granted, I do not have a Campdraft, only photos, ergo the question).

The first thing that comes to mind is the brim width. The Stratoliner has a 2-1/2" wide brim, while the Campdraft has a wider 2-7/8" brim. Apart from that, they appear to be rather similar.

 

[John the Swede]

The first thing that comes to mind is the brim width. The Stratoliner has a 2-1/2" wide brim, while the Campdraft has a wider 2-7/8" brim. Apart from that, they appear to be rather similar.

Thanks. Color choices too are different I suppose. Strat has the nice caribou, but only CD are silver belly, taupe, and bluegrass (whatever that is). Unless you go for the "deluxe" in moonstone which looks close to caribou. That seems way more expensive than the standard however.

 

[drmaxtejeda]

This size tag in a Borsalino is a 6 punti =7 3/8, correct?
Also, I read somewhere in the lounge that the yellow figure in this tag means something about its age, or origin, and I don't remember what it was.

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[Zoukatron]

What color did you get, if I may ask?

I got the bluegrass green. Really not sure what bluegrass means in this context, but I really like this colour (not the first Akubra I've bought in it).

My only issue so far has been in getting it to take the shape I want, the felt is a bit stiff, but in general I find I get the tapered shape I like better from a tall straight crown like the Campdraft than a shorter tapered crown like the Fedora. If I'm happy with it's finished then I can see myself easily getting multiples.

 

[Bill Hughes]

I've been working on a image for a polo shirt. It will go on the left breast. I'm trying to decide if it needs some writing. Any ideas would be appreciated. Was thinking "Hat Hound" or ??????

The image below is to show the approx size of the graphic. The image is my family crest. (Kinda wished I had put my last name under it).

 

[AbbaDatDeHat]

This size tag in a Borsalino is a 6 punti =7 3/8, correct?
Also, I read somewhere in the lounge that the yellow figure in this tag means something about its age, or origin, and I don't remember what it was.

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Hey Doc:
Here ya go.
Also, the Eulan Bayer is a “treatment/proccess” done to the felt. I believe it was for moth prevention. Sometime in 70’s maybe 60’s too. Don’t quote me.
Here’s one with “your favorite”. Ha
Bowen