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Watching Sherlock Holmes with Robert Downey JR. Does anyone know what hat he is wearing through most of this movie?
Anyone recognize this hat? I saw it somewhere probably on here while I was searching for custom fedoras for ideas but can't remember who made it?
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Thanks.That hat was made by Parker Melvin of Falcon Park Hattery. It is called The Presidente...
https://www.falconparkhattery.com/full-custom
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Is there anywhere to get information on the hat pins that came with our hats and a little history and means of dating? I am especially interested in the Stetson pins, but info on others is also useful and fun to have.
M
Well, all the other pins Stetson put out....the brand pins, the script pins, the metal logo pins, ect. I have an old color pin dated 1896....but they could have used that for a LONG time. Also when did they start using pins? What kinds of pins came with the hats from the 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's? The Strat pins were only on that line of hats....what came on the Whippets and Playboys?There are copious discussions on the Stratoliner pins. What else did you have in mind?
Question (but first the dilemma):
I've figured out the right nuances to successfully bind the brim edges on my project hats (yay!)
I've also figured out a great process for kettle-curling without the use of those 200.00 shackles (yay!)
What I haven't quite figured out is how to do both of those steps together. On one of my project pieces, I ironed the brim flat and did a whippet-esque binding. Then i tried to curl the brim and the ribbon (although it possessed a heavy cotton content) scorched and puckered =(
I ended up removing all the stitching of the edge ribbon, re-pouncing the curl, and began hand-stitching a new binding because the machine can't manage the odd angle of the curl.
All that to say: Do the curling shackles correct this issue? I ask because I want to be able to machine stitch the edge binding (looks much better than when I use the awl) and the only way for me to do that without spending bookoo on a much better sewing machine is to stitch first, curl second.
My hope is that the curling shackles can correct the issue because even though the shackles are pricey, they're much cheaper than the kind of machine I'd need for sewing after curling...
Any firsthand anecdotes would be much appreciated!
You can't bind first and then curl...I would opt to go by hand.
Well, all the other pins Stetson put out....the brand pins, the script pins, the metal logo pins, ect. I have an old color pin dated 1896....but they could have used that for a LONG time. Also when did they start using pins? What kinds of pins came with the hats from the 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's? The Strat pins were only on that line of hats....what came on the Whippets and Playboys?
As you can see there is a LOT to cover. I thought someone around here may even collect just the hat pins......
Cheers,
M
Here is another picture of the 1896 pin. I would love to know what hats it came on and how long it was used.....
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Jim, there is a remarkably similar Stetson pin on Etsy (just search Etsy for Stetson 1890's pin) that shows the 1896 patent date.
Very nice pin, I must say.
Cheers!
David
Pins have been used on hats to advertise brands and names for some time. I was just wanting more information as I do run across them from time to time and have found them interesting. I do have several across different manufacturers, most post 1960 or so. The "brand" I refer to is the JBS Branding Iron pin that comes on some different Stetson hats since at least the 1960's. (As and aside, I even have a "key" pin that came with my Stetson "Key Club". I have seen the rifle pins that came with the Stetson "Gun Club" and a fishing rod that came with the "Rod & Reel" by I think Marathon?) As to my 1896 pin, my political pin collector friends have indicated it is very much of that time. My own experience tells me this was probably used up to the 20's.
Any way I though someone around here may know more or be a collector and YES this could be a good thread! But, it should be started with someone who has much more knowledge than me.
Cheers,
M
I just meant the patent date may not reflect the actual age of the pin. I really have no idea, just spitballing.
Sent directly from my mind to yours.
I know that I want one. Following intently, I'm a hat pin person.Well, all the other pins Stetson put out....the brand pins, the script pins, the metal logo pins, ect. I have an old color pin dated 1896....but they could have used that for a LONG time. Also when did they start using pins? What kinds of pins came with the hats from the 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's? The Strat pins were only on that line of hats....what came on the Whippets and Playboys?
As you can see there is a LOT to cover. I thought someone around here may even collect just the hat pins......
Cheers,
M
Here is another picture of the 1896 pin. I would love to know what hats it came on and how long it was used.....
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Me neither but it is very cool, regardless.
Cheers!
David
@M Hatman - darn you! Darn you all to heck! Now I've spent this morning looking over the "Stetson Stuff" and "Stetson Crest Dating" threads, killing my productivity! You and your #$&!!@ pin.Pins have been used on hats to advertise brands and names for some time. I was just wanting more information as I do run across them from time to time and have found them interesting. I do have several across different manufacturers, most post 1960 or so. The "brand" I refer to is the JBS Branding Iron pin that comes on some different Stetson hats since at least the 1960's. (As and aside, I even have a "key" pin that came with my Stetson "Key Club". I have seen the rifle pins that came with the Stetson "Gun Club" and a fishing rod that came with the "Rod & Reel" by I think Marathon?) As to my 1896 pin, my political pin collector friends have indicated it is very much of that time. My own experience tells me this was probably used up to the 20's.
Any way I though someone around here may know more or be a collector and YES this could be a good thread! But, it should be started with someone who has much more knowledge than me.
Cheers,
M
+1 True Dat....time leach@M Hatman - darn you! Darn you all to heck! Now I've spent this morning looking over the "Stetson Stuff" and "Stetson Crest Dating" threads, killing my productivity! You and your #$&!!@ pin.
The Stetson Stuff thread doesn't have any hat pins in it, although Stetson specific pins would seem to fit there. There are several Hat Pin, etc. threads, however. I don't know what would be more appropriate, but obviously, I've found this discussion compelling. Perhaps others will, as well. You should post some pics of the other pins you are referring to and maybe get something started!
A couple notes on your pin (and the one currently on eBay). The patent referred to on the back is the patent for the pin design from Whitehead and Hoag Co., according to this website (see about 2/3 down the page). So it doesn't offer a specific clue on your pin; however, your political pin collector offers good advice, I'm sure.
The crest dating thread also brought up these two images, which I think may be relevant.
1876 Crests
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1894 Trademarks
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Neither of these show the exact logo (beaver & griffin) on the pin in question. Which proves...very little, actually. But it is a starting off point. We know that the pin logo was used until the middle of last century, when it was replaced by the one with the leaf. I do not know, however, when that logo was introduced. Pretty sure late 1800s, early 1900s, though.
This site, I tells ya, it'll eat you alive...