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[handymike]

Yes, those Hercules “fancy back” jackets were based on the cossack style, and were around 23.5in (25in including collar) down the back. They also made a long version with 2in added, so there are a few out there with 25.5in backs measured without the collar.

 

[Canuck Panda]

I believe I have found the answer to your question, in the process answered a few of my own. Your questions helped put a few things together. I had never considered the addition of the side gussets or the significance. Now I see it. I will do a thread on my findings.

Yes please.
I spent the entire afternoon looking through old Sears Catalogues, mainly from the 20s. And funny thing was there were no leather jackets. There were some sheepskin lined moleskin jackets and sheepskin jerkin vest with split leather arms like modern day bombers, but nothing resemble what came in the 30s in terms of leather jacket offerings.
So it would seem like there were some big changes in the early 30s that paved the way for the leather jackets we know today. Cant wait to see what u got.

 

[Canuck Panda]

Yes, those Hercules “fancy back” jackets were based on the cossack style, and were around 23.5in (25in including collar) down the back. They also made a long version with 2in added, so there are a few out there with 25.5in backs measured without the collar.

This is making so much sense for me now with the Hercules Cossack. Thanks!

 

[handymike]

 

[tmitchell59]

They also made a long version with 2in added, so there are a few out there with 25.5in backs measured without the collar.

Here is the extra 2 inches for "six footers" from 1938

 

[tmitchell59]

So it would seem like there were some big changes in the early 30s that paved the way for the leather jackets we know today.

In a word, yes. You continue to be on target. Perhaps we could call it the "Modern" jacket. One of the other pavers is the first zipper in the 1931 catalog. Can not underestimate that development.

I need to get my ducks in a row and do the thread. I've got pieces and I know others here do also. I want to get all the pieces in one place and see what they look like. Maybe I am the only one who didn't get it or maybe I'm all wrong. We will see.

 

[dwilson]

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What did people typically keep in the chest pocket that it being rubber lined is a stand-out feature?

 

[Canuck Panda]

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What did people typically keep in the chest pocket that it being rubber lined is a stand-out feature?

My guess is smokes and to keep it dry. I am just guessing though.

 

[Canuck Panda]

In a word, yes. You continue to be on target. Perhaps we could call it the "Modern" jacket. One of the other pavers is the first zipper in the 1931 catalog. Can not underestimate that development.

I need to get my ducks in a row and do the thread. I've got pieces and I know others here do also. I want to get all the pieces in one place and see what they look like. Maybe I am the only one who didn't get it or maybe I'm all wrong. We will see.

The change is very drastic from late 20s to mid 30s. Please post what you got. It’s hard to find information because this was also the Great Depression period. But it really gave birth to menswear as we know it today. It would be nice to learn about where this all came from, the origin. Thanks.

 

[tmitchell59]

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My guess is smokes and to keep it dry. I am just guessing though.

Call it a humidor pocket. This feature does not show up that often, just something new sorta a gimmick?. It is not on all of these particular Sears jackets. I have a suede jacket with such a pocket, no label.

 

[dwilson]

Ah I see. Yeah if I would have just read the actual ad it discusses this in bullet point #4.

 

[Marc mndt]

Where can I buy buttons like this? (in small quantities)

Any tips?

 

[marker2037]

Where can I buy buttons like this? (in small quantities)

Any tips?

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Ask Thedi. He uses those art deco styled ones (top left, center bottom) on the Atlas I just got and a few other models.

 

[Marc mndt]

Ask Thedi. He uses those art deco styled ones (top left, center bottom) on the Atlas I just got and a few other models.

Sharp eye, Thedi does indeed use those. But I'm rather hesitant to ask one maker to supply the buttons for another maker's project

 

[marker2037]

Sharp eye, Thedi does indeed use those. But I'm rather hesitant to ask one maker to supply the buttons for another maker's project

Yea, I'd be too haha. I personally love those buttons so good luck sourcing them and I look forward to seeing what creation they end up on.

 

[Marc mndt]

Today I visited the local 'knopenwinkel' (button store in Dutch). 1 million buttons but nothing close to what I'm looking for.

 

[marker2037]

I'm kind of shocked they didn't have anything for you...

 

[Cornelius]

...I'm kind of shocked they're able to stay in business in 2021 Amsterdam!

 

[58panheadfan]

Where can I buy buttons like this? (in small quantities)
Any tips? View attachment 337228

https://corozobuttons.com/product-category/show-all/
They als have an insta feed

Maybe, not excactly what you are looking for but it seems they have some fisheye and art deco buttons.

Edit: DM sent...

 

[58panheadfan]

Nice Buttons available

Note: Realized only wholesales are available (1440 pcs per minimum).