Anyone get their new Vanson delivered recently?

[Jeff M]

I believe in 2007;

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=330139

 

[IXL]

I wasn't aware they had filed for bankruptcy. When did that take place? I was suspecting financial issues during my dealings with them last year.

It was around the year 2007.

 

[53Effie]

Thank you. Very interesting.

 

[Johann]

Well I came home today to find a ups notice so I'll have my jacket tomorrow. It took 7 months, curious to see how it came out.

 

[Jeff M]

Great news!

 

[Philalethes]

Well I came home today to find a ups notice so I'll have my jacket tomorrow. It took 7 months, curious to see how it came out.

Please post pics when it arrives!

 

[Philalethes]

I believe in 2007;

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=330139

One of the articles in this post is very interesting. In it, the owner of Vanson is portrayed quite strongly as believing that anti-American sentiment following the invasion of Iraq had significantly hurt overseas sales. Having traveled abroad to Europe several times after the Iraq war started, I can confirm that there was a lot of anti-Bush sentiment. I wonder if indeed this did affect Vanson's sales.

I hope I am not overstepping the line by discussing politics here - if so, I will withdraw my comments. But I also wonder, if the above is true, whether Obama's election would have changed this at all. My impression is that Europe loved Obama when he was first elected - indisputably he has a different persona than Bush. However, I think it is also indisputable that current American foreign policy is very, very similar to Bush's.

In short, I am wondering a) whether American brands really took a hit after the invasion of Iraq; and b) whether, if (a) is true, this is still true today.

Again, I will withdraw my comments if they are too political or tangential.

 

[IXL]

Many American brands did just fine during this same time and increased their sales abroad. Funny, but to my knowledge none of the buisness' expanding abroad felt the need to bash Bush for anything...they were to busy making bank deposits, I imagine.

 

[Jeff M]

Other American leather clothing producers like Schott, Langlitz, Lost Worlds didn't go bankrupt over this time period, so there must have been something going on intrinsic to how Vanson was doing business at that time that pushed them over the edge.
I have to wonder if there is still something about Vanson's business model that is causing difficulties with product delivery.
I have ordered several jackts from Aero Scotland, a couple from Eastman, one from Langlitz over the past few years. In each case they were delivered within one week of the quoted arrival date.
Only with Vanson have I run into such a prolonged, open ended delay.

 

[ButteMT61]

I hope I am not overstepping the line by discussing politics here - if so, I will withdraw my comments. But I also wonder, if the above is true, whether Obama's election would have changed this at all. My impression is that Europe loved Obama when he was first elected - indisputably he has a different persona than Bush. However, I think it is also indisputable that current American foreign policy is very, very similar to Bush's.

Again, I will withdraw my comments if they are too political or tangential.

Similar? I'd say you'd have a tough time differentiating the two at this point.
And to be honest, if I owned an American-based business, I'd gladly give up any overseas sales to anyone that felt that way.
Let's just easily forget all WE DO for the rest of the world - they sure do it easily enough.

IMHO, nothing wrong with discussing this as part of the thread - as long as it stays civilized.

 

[too much coffee]

One of the articles in this post is very interesting. In it, the owner of Vanson is portrayed quite strongly as believing that anti-American sentiment following the invasion of Iraq had significantly hurt overseas sales. Having traveled abroad to Europe several times after the Iraq war started, I can confirm that there was a lot of anti-Bush sentiment. I wonder if indeed this did affect Vanson's sales.

I hope I am not overstepping the line by discussing politics here - if so, I will withdraw my comments. But I also wonder, if the above is true, whether Obama's election would have changed this at all. My impression is that Europe loved Obama when he was first elected - indisputably he has a different persona than Bush. However, I think it is also indisputable that current American foreign policy is very, very similar to Bush's.

In short, I am wondering a) whether American brands really took a hit after the invasion of Iraq; and b) whether, if (a) is true, this is still true today.

Again, I will withdraw my comments if they are too political or tangential.

Hello Philalethes;

If the owner of Vanson is touting that the anti-American sentiment is the reason for a drop in overseas sales, he is being dillusional and not taking responsibility.
All he has to do is read this recent thread regarding the dissatisfaction by some regarding their jacket orders. Specifically, the failure to meet delivery times and his staff giving BS excuses to the clientel.

Face the music, Vanson Leathers, you're really reaching if that's your take for a reason for falling overseas sales. Look at Langlitz and Johnson Leathers......are they crying? Fox Creek Leathers, super products and great customer service; that's what it takes to remain on top of your game. Vanson farms out their stuff to some Central American sweat shop and trys to control production and fill orders from Massachusettes.

Langlitz...........on site production
Aero...............on site production
Fox Creek.......on site production.

Vanson? Used to be really good.......but as Neil Diamond once sung (duet with Barbara Streisand) "used to be's don't count anymore.."

I just get fed up with folks not taking responsibilities for their actions or inactions.

Regards, coffee

 

[Johann]

Anyway....Yep the custom ENF arrived today, tag says made in USA, sleeves are 2 inches longer as requested, however they did not put zippers on the pockets which was the third item requested as custom on this jacket. So 2 out of 3. Otherwise jacket is good. I am so over this company it's not worth pursuing. Good riddance to Vanson.

 

[Jeff M]

I suspect you could return it to have the error corrected. I wonder, would they have to make a whole new jacket? I'd be reluctant to go that route, what with the "date of delivery" issues they currently have.

 

[Johann]

It's alright, I am done with Vanson, this is my fourth jacket from them and I knew better. I will not deal with them further. Good luck to everyone else, hope it's better for you all.

 

[Philalethes]

It's alright, I am done with Vanson, this is my fourth jacket from them and I knew better. I will not deal with them further. Good luck to everyone else, hope it's better for you all.

Johann, sorry about your jacket.

I was considering an Enfield as one of my next jackets (in another year or so). However, if I decide to buy one, I am buying off the rack from one of their dealers, because, sadly enough, I cannot trust them to do any special orders.

 

[Philalethes]

Hello Philalethes;

If the owner of Vanson is touting that the anti-American sentiment is the reason for a drop in overseas sales, he is being dillusional and not taking responsibility.
All he has to do is read this recent thread regarding the dissatisfaction by some regarding their jacket orders. Specifically, the failure to meet delivery times and his staff giving BS excuses to the clientel.

Face the music, Vanson Leathers, you're really reaching if that's your take for a reason for falling overseas sales. Look at Langlitz and Johnson Leathers......are they crying? Fox Creek Leathers, super products and great customer service; that's what it takes to remain on top of your game. Vanson farms out their stuff to some Central American sweat shop and trys to control production and fill orders from Massachusettes.

Langlitz...........on site production
Aero...............on site production
Fox Creek.......on site production.

Vanson? Used to be really good.......but as Neil Diamond once sung (duet with Barbara Streisand) "used to be's don't count anymore.."

I just get fed up with folks not taking responsibilities for their actions or inactions.

Regards, coffee

Coffee, I think you nailed it on the head. Like you and others have said: Lost Worlds, Schott, Fox Creek, Johnson Leathers, U.S. Authentic, Langlitz - at least one of these other companies should also have suffered if the problem were merely that overseas customers weren't buying. I should add that I have heard mostly good things about all of the above companies, and only (and repeatedly) good things about Langlitz, Fox Creek, and Johnson.

 

[Capncurly]

My account was charged for the rest of my order this morning (i.e. the price of my jacket minus the deposit I put down). So, hopefully this means it's finally on its way. I'll post pics and a full review when it arrives.

 

[too much coffee]

Capncurly:
Best of luck with it and I hope you get it real soon. And yes, we here at the FL thrive on pics and reviews; Thanks!

Regards,
too much coffee

 

[Jeff M]

Just heard from Vanson that the jacket I ordered back in September 2010 is "in production", noting they had "leather problems" and apologizing for the delay.

 

[too much coffee]

Just heard from Vanson that the jacket I ordered back in September 2010 is "in production", noting they had "leather problems" and apologizing for the delay.

Well I guess that beats a kick in the nuts!

Yeah .............about $100.00 off would reflect a genuine professional apology. Hang in there Jeff!

Regards, coffee