Any Cravat Wearers Out There?

[Shangas]

Is there a difference between a cravat and an ascot? Or are they just different names for the same thing?

And I'm aware of silk square neckerchiefs. That's not really what I'm after, though.

 

[Spitfire]

In UK and the rest of Europe it's called a cravat - Ascot is a racing track! For horses!!!
(Same thing - different names)

By the way - this picture from today is a scarf - in the best RAF tradition - used as a cravat.
In many ways much easier and more comfortable than the "real" cravats. Use scarves 80% of the time although I have plenty of very fine and nice cravats.

 

[Davey_Speedstar]

As a direct comparison, this is the cravat I'm wearing today

 

[Spitfire]

For some reason I can not see the picture...
Edit: I can see. I can see!!!!!
Nice one!

 

[Shangas]

I can see it. Although the cravat is of a very dark-coloured material. I'm looking for a more noticable, puffier look when I do up my cravat.

 

[Davey_Speedstar]

Meh - I'm at work, and I'm a bit restricted as to what I can/cannot upload and link to from the office machine. I'll be at home an a couple of hours.

However, fastening the 2nd button does give more of a 'push-up' effect.

 

[Edward]

Is there a difference between a cravat and an ascot? Or are they just different names for the same thing?

And I'm aware of silk square neckerchiefs. That's not really what I'm after, though.

These days they mostly mean the same thing, although if you look at Charles' blog which Florian links to above, you'll see an explanation of what an actual formal daywear cravat - an Ascot in its true sense - is and why (contrary to popular contemporary standards) it's not actually the same thing as tying a four in hand knot in a regular cravat and wearing it over the collar.

I can see it. Although the cravat is of a very dark-coloured material. I'm looking for a more noticable, puffier look when I do up my cravat.

I find two things useful here.... a longer cravat (enough material to wrap twice around your neck) holds up well. Also, a cotton-type material seems to hold in place and not slip like silk can. The latter can be helped with the deployment of a cravat pin.

 

[Shangas]

Hi Ed, thanks for the cravat-vs-ascot definition. Much appreciated.

I've seen people wearing ascots in historical dramas before (most notably, the Canadian TV series "Murdoch Mysteries" that takes place in 1890s Toronto), and I always wondered how they achieved that look.

Now I know

 

[Smithy]

Another cravat wearer here.

Although like Spitfire I tend to mostly wear silk scarves now in a cravat style. As he says, easier and more comfortable IMHO.

BTW - nice scarf Søren, is that your one from Bromleys?

 

[Shangas]

Well, I went to the shop today. Just my luck, the red silk scarf I had my eye on has been sold. But I did find a neat little green and brown, patterened cravat. I bought it for $4, and tied it up. This was the result:

And yes, it was a proper cravat. It's got the skinny bit in the middle and the wider, pleated bits at the ends.

 

[Spitfire]

BTW - nice scarf Søren, is that your one from Bromleys?

Absolutely - I removed all the tassels - much easier to use now. I actually wear it almost every day at the mo.

 

[Fly Boy]

My old man detests day cravats as the mark of a 'cad in a Jag'. Though speaking as a bounder without a Jag, I'm rather partial.

 

[Spitfire]

It just so happened that I stumbled over this beauty at Bromleys, UK - couldn't say no.

 

[Shangas]

Oooh neat!

Hey guys. Does anyone here on the Lounge wear a stickpin with their cravats? Are they particularly sharp? Or ruinous to the fabric of the cravat? Do they leave really noticable holes?

 

[Davey_Speedstar]

Oooh neat!

Hey guys. Does anyone here on the Lounge wear a stickpin with their cravats?

...and how are they worn?

 

[Shangas]

Stickpin:

...with cravat:

 

[Smithy]

It just so happened that I stumbled over this beauty at Bromleys, UK - couldn't say no.

Nice one mate. You've been wanting an old boys striped cravat for awhile now so good to see you've found one.

Now you just need to find a silk scarf in the same style

 

[Spitfire]

Now you just need to find a silk scarf in the same style

You read my mind!

 

[Two Types]

Oooh neat!

Hey guys. Does anyone here on the Lounge wear a stickpin with their cravats? Are they particularly sharp? Or ruinous to the fabric of the cravat? Do they leave really noticable holes?

I sometimes wear them. And they are certainly very effective for holding the cravat knot in place. However, they do damage the cravat. it's the same as tie pins: one should be very careful when wearing them. But the nice thing is that I like that like sparkle of light. The stick pin is, of course, one of the few respectable items of male jewellery. The best bet is to buy one, try it, and if you think it has a detrimental effect on your cravat, keep it for special occasions.

 

[Mrs Chaddsley_Corbett]

Surely a stick pin should be confined to Weddings and Riding to Hounds? and most Cravats have pretty patterns that a pin would be lost on, thats why they have them at those beastly Wedding hire establishments