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Another question about hair--taming the mane.

Inky

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jessesgirl08 said:
i want this hair i am just getting into dressing vintage 40's and i am currently exparimenting with my hair. but i want this hair.........http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k322/mmmmandy76/ritaaaaaa.jpg how do i do it? i have tried a few things but my curls are always way too small i need the big wavy curls. how do i get them like the pic? how do i reproduce this style from A to Z.
Thanks,

Jesse,

there are some good "rita" hair tutorials on live journal

http://community.livejournal.com/vintagehair/tag/rita+hayworth

hope that helps!
 

Land-O-LakesGal

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Inky said:
Mason Pearson brushes are pricey but well worth the money - mine is 12 years old now and as good as the day I bought it. I wash it once a month or so to keep it clean.
How do you clean it ? I am thinking of getting one (maybe as a Christmas present) I am having my husband check around to see if he can use is barber discount on one also. Just curious about your maintenance.
 

Frenchy56

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Hi guys,

I've read through this thread and others and I've got a question about hair brushes.

I've found that using a plastic wire-type bristle brush detangles my curls more, and a more...bristly one makes them smoother. To save using two seperate brushes, can you get any decent hairbrushes that have a mixture of bristles, one that would both detangle and smooth the hair at the same time?

I know some people suggest running your fingers/a comb through your curls after unrolling but I just can't do it, I hate the feel :(
 

40'sfetish

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When I set my hair I will usually try and keep the set going for up to a week, I find that using setting lotion and hairspray my hair doesn't get as oily as it used to without washing. I keep a set going by rolling up the pincurls again at night and maybe a light water spray to help reset. I did buy a natural bristle brush with a wooden handle which is better for brushing out the curls (didn't say whether it was boar bristle or not). But brushing is the key and I try and mould the curls around my hand when I brush which helps smooth them.
 

miserabelle

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Mine really just gets too oily to last for more than two days - the curls drop out and it just looks a bit... greasy. Is there anything I can do to make it last a bit longer?

xx
 

Frenchy56

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Mine really just gets too oily to last for more than two days - the curls drop out and it just looks a bit... greasy. Is there anything I can do to make it last a bit longer?

xx

Before I started setting my hair, it used to get so oily that I *had* to wash it everyday. Even if it looked okay at the end of the day, by the next morning it looked horrible.

From experience, the main thing I would advise is just to gradually leave it longer between washes, and try to find ways of dealing with greasy hair days- bandanas, headscarves and snoods are my go-to here.

I know on the face of it this might not sound like much help, but trust me, it does work. I now haven't washed my hair since Saturday night- that's 5 days. It may be a bit greasy at the roots but I've still got curls. Normally I wash every 3 days - I've been particularly lucky with my set this time - but even that is such an improvement.

Then there's the obvious things, are you using the right shampoo/conditioner/styling products for your hair type? You should find also that pinning it up in sections and covering it overnight will preserve your curls. Also, if you do wetsets, is your hair 100% dry before you unroll? Cause I notice that when mine's not, my hair looks very lank and the curls come out very quickly.

Hope that helps, I'm hardly an expert so hopefully someone else will advise you better! :)
 

zombi

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I think I'm brushing my (fine, thin, naturally wavy) hair out wrong. Still. Somehow. Every set I do, no matter what I use -- pincurls, sponge rollers, just water, soaking wet, halfway damp, barely misted, mousse, gel, setting lotion, brushing out with pomade, brushing against my hand, boar bristle brush, plastic denman brush, I've tried them all. I've watched so many videos on pincurling and brushing out your set, lots of them more than once! I've brushed out for an HOUR today and STILL my curls won't turn into waves. It's a frizzy, ugly mess, and it stays that way. I'm really feeling quite despaired about setting my hair now. I wish I could wear it set every day, I'd love to be able to do that. I might even spring for a middy if I could ever get the hang of it! But it never comes out.

:( I don't know what to do! Any advice?
 
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Miss sofia

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Don't despair, i have the same hair type as you and have had the frizz bomb result loads of times. I have found the following helps me:

I set my hair half way dry and spritz with water only, or literally a dash of lottabody well diluted with water, all other setting lotions have given me the bad frizzies, crunchy thing. I also put some serum on the length of my hair before i put rollers in. Don't make pincurls too tight or too small, and use medium rollers if you can for the majority of your set, again not rolled too tight. End papers when using rollers help alot too with getting a smooth finish and no unruly ends, use loo roll or cigarette papers, they work just as well. I also find taking out my rollers or pincurls and leaving them to drop for a bit helpful, then i separate each curl and brush it out individually. Keep brushing gently. I use a bristle brush or a Denman vented brush. Then pomade to tame any frizzy bits or some shine spray.

Hope this helps. x
 

zombi

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Thanks girls! There's a really fine line with pomade for me -- it's either not enough or suddenly it's too much, the hair gets weighted down, and all the strands begin to separate from it into stringy... bits, haha. I already leave the curls to drop before I brush out, as it seemed to help a little. I have not tried end papers, so I guess I will give that a go. :)
 

C-dot

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There's a really fine line with pomade for me -- it's either not enough or suddenly it's too much, the hair gets weighted down, and all the strands begin to separate from it into stringy... bits, haha.

I had this problem too, but soon you'll get the feel. Try putting a tiny bit on your fingertips and pulling them through your curls, then repeating until it takes shape. I find that even frizzy or awkwardly set curls will take on new life with pomade, not to mention that they last about 2 days longer. It really is a magic product.
 

Claireg

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Ok Dolls!!

also all of them said that the brushes we have now days is not even the same type they had back then!when i asked them they every one of them pulled out a boar bristle brush (very expensive at sally's beauty supply) I have over 75 different brushes for my job & they all pulled out the same brush! the wooden handled boar bristle brush NO PLASTIC in the middle of the bristles or anywhere on the brush it's self!
they brushed through their hair after they took out the rollers or the pin curls then COMBED the hair in place put on a hair net (yes, you can still buy them! EVERYWHERE) & most of them didn't have hairspray so they didn't spray!
PLUS they got a hair cut every 6 weeks to get the dead ends off (mostly they had 1 person who could cut a straight line & cut their hairs for them!
so I hope these ladies of the past has helped us all!
Can I ask a probably silly question?
Were the brushes flat ones (paddle type) or round ones with the bristles sticking out all around?
Thanks
 

Juliet

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I had a similar problem, and the solution for me was to brush it out once, then leave it for 15-20 minutes. After that, gently brush again. That helped.[huh]
 

wahine

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I have an old boar bristle brush with a wooden handle, but I don't dare to use it whenever I have any product in my hair because I don't know how to clean the brush. When using water, won't I ruin the wooden handle? It's kinda silly to have this formidable brush and hardly ever use it...

ps. about rinsing with vinegar: I use apple vinegar, that doesn't smell half as "salady" as usual vinegar.
 

sheeplady

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I have an old boar bristle brush with a wooden handle, but I don't dare to use it whenever I have any product in my hair because I don't know how to clean the brush. When using water, won't I ruin the wooden handle? It's kinda silly to have this formidable brush and hardly ever use it...

ps. about rinsing with vinegar: I use apple vinegar, that doesn't smell half as "salady" as usual vinegar.

I have a modern boar bristle brush with a wooden handle/head. I just run it under the water until wet, squirt on some dishsoap, and then use my other hairbrush to rub the soap in (just move them back and forth). Then I rinse and let air dry. I don't submerge or soak it. I haven't had any problems doing this; I've been doing it weekly for 2 years.


You can also use lemon juice (lightens), lime juice (lightens), or tea (darkens) as an acid rinse if the vinegar smell isn't comfortable.
 

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