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[Feraud]

I enjoy the old films where actors make reference to the things one was not supposed to talk about. It makes the actors seem more human.

 

[Lee Lynch]

This is a most interesting thread, and has proven to be a brainfull of considerations, many of which I agree with.

Allow me to express my agreement with Daisy's original post.

Although I confess to liking a select few of the very shows that spew garbage, I won't be letting any future child of ours watch just anything, or get totally hooked on vid games (Some? Yes. Full time? No) Entertainment will be carefully filtered, especially that which expresses a loss of traditional values.

I sure like my XBox though!

 

[Lincsong]

I enjoy the old films where actors make reference to the things one was not supposed to talk about. It makes the actors seem more human.

It really is a shocker sometimes.

 

[Lincsong]

I think I might have told this tale before but... I had a friend who was foul mouthed, disrespectful and a general Beavis and Butthead type. My mother had one brush with him and I was threatened with a whole year of not being allowed to stray away from the house.
Fast forward to my High School graduation. There was the oaf former friend standing by the sidelines crying like a baby. He didn't graduate like the rest of us. That made quite an example in my mind. My mother generally felt vindicated as well.

Regards to all,

J

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One time in school I befreinded a fellow who didn't have his driver's license and he would catch a ride with me at lunch. Well, one day he forgotten something at home and asked that we stop by his house to pick it up. So I pulled up in front of the house and he went inside. His mother was home and she looked out the window and told him; "Manuel, who is that clean cut, nice looking boy who brought you here? He looks very neat and his truck is very clean. I want to meet him. That's the kind of boys whom you should be associating. He looks like he would be a good influence on you."

 

[jamespowers]

One time in school I befreinded a fellow who didn't have his driver's license and he would catch a ride with me at lunch. Well, one day he forgotten something at home and asked that we stop by his house to pick it up. So I pulled up in front of the house and he went inside. His mother was home and she looked out the window and told him; "Manuel, who is that clean cut, nice looking boy who brought you here? He looks very neat and his truck is very clean. I want to meet him. That's the kind of boys whom you should be associating. He looks like he would be a good influence on you."

Yeah Manuel, sure. Geez, we really have known each other too long.

Regards,

J

 

[Twitch]

Yeah Lincsong, there was lots of less than innocent and ignorant stuff going on to feed sex researchers like Kinsey with lifetimes of material

 

[jamespowers]

Yeah Lincsong, there was lots of less than innocent and ignorant stuff going on to feed sex researchers like Kinsey with lifetimes of material

The works of Kinsey are suspect now that we can look back on it. The questions asked and the responses were a little out there in the sense of where is the proof. His turning homosexuals straight studies are at the least discounted which throws suspicion on his work as a whole. [huh] Kinsey? Uh, look somewhere else for facts of the age.

Regards,

J

 

[carebear]

I just finished "Poor No More" by Robert Ruark. Written in 1959 and encompassing one character from right around WWI to about that date.

There is all sorts of marital infidelity including partner swapping. Abuse of alcohol and Benzedrine. For the famous such things hit the tabloids, for everybody else you just didn't acknowledge it except with gossip.

No, the times weren't pure by a long shot. I guess the difference is that it wsn't celebrated or publically mainstreamed. In the name of "honesty" public discourse was coursened. I'm not sure it was a good trade.

 

[jamespowers]

I just finished "Poor No More" by Robert Ruark. Written in 1959 and encompassing one character from right around WWI to about that date.

There is all sorts of marital infidelity including partner swapping. Abuse of alcohol and Benzedrine. For the famous such things hit the tabloids, for everybody else you just didn't acknowledge it except with gossip.

No, the times weren't pure by a long shot. I guess the difference is that it wsn't celebrated or publically mainstreamed. In the name of "honesty" public discourse was coursened. I'm not sure it was a good trade.

The difference is as Tom Wolfe has pointed out:
If there was a sex scandal or pornography involving a celebrity, their careers would have been over.
Now it just enhances their marketability. :eusa_doh: Paris Hilton anyone? [huh]

Regards,

J

 

[Lincsong]

Yeah Manuel, sure. Geez, we really have known each other too long.

Regards,

J

What's the big deal; James Powers is about as close to your real name as Lincsong is to mine.lol ?

 

[Lincsong]

Yeah Lincsong, there was lots of less than innocent and ignorant stuff going on to feed sex researchers like Kinsey with lifetimes of material

Yeah, if a man and woman were living together outside of marriage it was called having a "boarder" or "common law-spouse".lol

 

[katiemakeup]

The difference is as Tom Wolfe has pointed out:
If there was a sex scandal or pornography involving a celebrity, their careers would have been over.

'The Fixers: Eddie Mannix, Howard Strickling and the MGM Publicity Machine'

Book Description
Eddie Mannix and Howard Strickling are virtually unknown outside of Hollywood and little-remembered even there, but as General Manager and Head of Publicity for Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios, they lorded over all the stars in Hollywood's golden age from the 1920s through the 1940s—including legends like Garbo, Dietrich, Gable and Garland. When MGM stars found themselves in trouble, it was Eddie and Howard who took care of them—solved their problems, hid their crimes, and kept their secrets. They were "the Fixers." At a time when image meant everything and the stars were worth millions to the studios that owned them, Mannix and Strickling were the most important men at MGM. Through a complex web of contacts in every arena, from reporters and doctors to corrupt police and district attorneys, they covered up some of the most notorious crimes and scandals in Hollywood history, keeping stars out of jail and, more importantly, their names out of the papers. They handled problems as diverse as the murder of Paul Bern (husband of MGM's biggest star, Jean Harlow), the studio-directed drug addictions of Judy Garland, the murder of Ted Healy (creator of The Three Stooges) at the hands of Wallace Beery, and arranging for an unmarried Loretta Young to adopt her own child—a child fathered by a married Clark Gable.

Through exhaustive research and interviews with contemporaries, this is the never-before-told story of Eddie Mannix and Howard Strickling. The dual biography describes how a mob-related New Jersey laborer and the quiet son of a grocer became the most powerful men at the biggest studio in the world.


Sounds like an interesting read!

 

[Lincsong]

One word; Fascinating

 

[Daisy Buchanan]

that really does sound like a good read.

 

[jamespowers]

Geez, we went for The Fixers to The Mixers.
The Mixers a Hollywood media that will pounce on any story fueled by stars agents to keep their names in the newspaper at any cost. Get drunk and say something stupid? Take a horrible mug shot and get it in every major newspaper not only in the US but in the world. Fall off a motorcycle and expose the fact that you aren't wearing underwear? It'll be on the nightly news for weeks and on and on with example after example.
The Mixers---they really know how to stir the pot. :eusa_doh:

Regards,

J

P.S. Yes there is a difference between now and then.