Amon Carter Borsalino; Stetson Shady Oak Farm; Peters Bros Shady Oaks, Bankers Special & Shady Pines

[Hurricane Jack]

Jim Peters Jr said in an interview that starting with Calvin Coolidge in 1923 Peters Bros gifted Shady Oak hats to 9 US Presidents. In another interview I found where one of the 3 (Jim Jr., Joe Jr. or Brad) said the tradition stopped with President Clinton. I take that to mean President Clinton was not gifted a hat. Sifting thru various articles & interviews I've come up with confirmation of 7 Presidents who were gifted
Shady Oak hats.

Calvin Coolidge
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Dwight D. Eisenhower
John F. Kennedy
Lyndon B. Johnson
Gerald R. Ford
James R. Carter

President Coolidge returned his hat saying it was not his style.
Jim Peters Jr. said not only was President Johnson gifted a hat, he was a regular customer.
President Carter returned his hat saying he could not accept gifts.

Surely President Reagan was gifted one? And being from Texas it's a sure bet that President George H.W. Bush was gifted one also. Then it stops with President Clinton. Reagan & Bush would make up the list of 9.

 

[Bamaboots]

Shady Pine 50 made from a 6X Swiss made hood. 2 1/2 x 5 1/2. Bound brim. Straight sided blocking. Sewn in liner. The felt is very thin and dense. Crown is easily moldable w/o steam or much effort. Brim is flexible. I’ve tried comparing the felt to some of my other hats and nothing quite matches up. The felt density is similar to a 7X CB but this is thinner and not as finely pounced but the finish is quite nice. Good sweat. Pretty light at 112 grams. The seller listed it as a 7 1/2. I thought the measurements were closer to 3/8. The last pic shows what was hidden behind the sweat. True to size, dammit.

 

[rclark]

Shady Pine 50 made from a 6X Swiss made hood. 2 1/2 x 5 1/2. Bound brim. Straight sided blocking. Sewn in liner. The felt is very thin and dense. Crown is easily moldable w/o steam or much effort. Brim is flexible. I’ve tried comparing the felt to some of my other hats and nothing quite matches up. The felt density is similar to a 7X CB but this is thinner and not as finely pounced but the finish is quite nice. Good sweat. Pretty light at 112 grams. The seller listed it as a 7 1/2. I thought the measurements were closer to 3/8. The last pic shows what was hidden behind the sweat. True to size, dammit.
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Hate that for you. Great looking hat! If you need to offload it you know how to reach me!

 

[Bamaboots]

I’ll text you, Rick.

 

[Hurricane Jack]

Shady Pine 50 made from a 6X Swiss made hood. 2 1/2 x 5 1/2. Bound brim. Straight sided blocking. Sewn in liner. The felt is very thin and dense. Crown is easily moldable w/o steam or much effort. Brim is flexible. I’ve tried comparing the felt to some of my other hats and nothing quite matches up. The felt density is similar to a 7X CB but this is thinner and not as finely pounced but the finish is quite nice. Good sweat. Pretty light at 112 grams. The seller listed it as a 7 1/2. I thought the measurements were closer to 3/8. The last pic shows what was hidden behind the sweat. True to size, dammit.
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That is a great looking hat BB, & a fine job you did on it. Glad to see another PBSP show up here. Any hidden date stamps?

 

[Bamaboots]

That is a great looking hat BB, & a fine job you did on it. Glad to see another PBSP show up here.

Thanks, HJ. You saw the sale pics. I never thought it would clean up this well w/o a gas bath.

 

[Frunobulax]

Shady Pine 50 made from a 6X Swiss made hood. 2 1/2 x 5 1/2. Bound brim. Straight sided blocking. Sewn in liner. The felt is very thin and dense. Crown is easily moldable w/o steam or much effort. Brim is flexible. I’ve tried comparing the felt to some of my other hats and nothing quite matches up. The felt density is similar to a 7X CB but this is thinner and not as finely pounced but the finish is quite nice. Good sweat. Pretty light at 112 grams. The seller listed it as a 7 1/2. I thought the measurements were closer to 3/8. The last pic shows what was hidden behind the sweat. True to size, dammit.
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Wow, really nice, Greg. May I request a couple of before shots, or did I miss them?

 

[Bamaboots]

Thanks, Jim. I should have done that. Here are a couple.

 

[quikrick]

Thanks, Jim. I should have done that. Here are a couple.
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The before pics add some perspective. Helluva job Greg!

 

[Bamaboots]

The before pics add some perspective. Helluva job Greg!

Thank you, Rick. I was a bit surprised myself when I went back for the before photos after only two days. The hat sponge is a friend.

 

[Bamaboots]

Any hidden date stamps?

Sorry for missing this earlier, HJ. HH and all, you know. I should have posted that there are no stamps or writing behind the sweat.

 

[Frunobulax]

Thanks, Jim. I should have done that. Here are a couple.
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Really shows the difference. Great recovery.

 

[Hurricane Jack]

Moving this here in case evidence turns up in the future.

LBJ Ranch (yr unknown)

Stetson Shady Oak Farm by Amon Carter thru Washer Bros? Was Johnson gifted one or was this just a hat bought from Washer Bros?

 

[BobHufford]

Incoming ...

I'll get better pics and more details when it arrives.

 

[Frunobulax]

Incoming ...

I'll get better pics and more details when it arrives.

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Well, that's a horse of a different color!

 

[deadlyhandsome]

Incoming ...

I'll get better pics and more details when it arrives.

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I can’t wait to see you wearing that beauty!

 

[BobHufford]

I can’t wait to see you wearing that beauty!

Since it is a size 7 it will look like I'm wearing a kid's cowgirl hat (not that I haven't before).

 

[Hurricane Jack]

Been trying to document this PBSO so I had not posted it yet.

 

[BobHufford]

Peters Bros. Shady Oaks Bankers Special Fifty 6X. Size 7. 3-1/4" brim, 4-1/2" crown (4" as creased). Some light mothing here and there.

 

[Hurricane Jack]

Peters Bros. Shady Oaks Bankers Special Fifty 6X. Size 7. 3-1/4" brim, 4-1/2" crown (4" as creased). Some light mothing here and there.

Is that pink or red?