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Alright... Alright! What's Covid-19 making you binge watch????

Edward

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Not weird at all. The wife and I love The First 48 and especially Forensic Files. We're always asking the same questions about why people talk when in the box. I've concluded society is much better off that they do!

There's a general assumption that an honest person will be able to explain themselves without needing to speak to a lawyer first about what they should and shouldn't say / needing time to come up with a story. That assumption has been built into law in the UK since the 90s, now - at ponit of arrest, the arrested person is told that they have the right to remain silent, however it may harm their defence if you later rely in court on something they don't say at tiem of arrest - i.e. a judge and or jury are permitted to assume the reason they didn't come up with their alibi immiediately is because they needed time to make it up.
 
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Not really binging, as I'm stil working full-time, but we sould finish upSeason 4 of Man in the High Castle in a few days, then start catching up on Better Call Saul.

I have, however, finally started getting through The Prisoner on Prime. I've been wanting to watch it for decades, but never had the chance.

We started Bates Motel again, but then found Dead Files. Right up our alley and I don't know how we missed 12 SEASONS.

I'll echo my wife and say that I'd like to see the outtake Christmas reel for that show.
 
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I powered through the new Ricky Gervais show "After Life". It is, in a word, ...brilliant. I think it is his best work. He walks the knife edge combining humour, touching moments, maudlin sentimentality, and piss your pants funny. An early scene in the first episode where he interviews a 100 year old woman is worth the price of admission. Not an episode where my wife and I did not laugh out loud and cry tears of sadness.
 

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There's a general assumption that an honest person will be able to explain themselves without needing to speak to a lawyer first about what they should and shouldn't say / needing time to come up with a story. That assumption has been built into law in the UK since the 90s, now - at ponit of arrest, the arrested person is told that they have the right to remain silent, however it may harm their defence if you later rely in court on something they don't say at tiem of arrest - i.e. a judge and or jury are permitted to assume the reason they didn't come up with their alibi immiediately is because they needed time to make it up.

As a lawyer in Canada I have envied that aspect of law. I love hearing it in the many English crime dramas we love.

Sadly, it is full right to silence here, no motives may be impugned at trial. As a military prosecutor I was blindsided at a court martial. Turns out the Crown witnesses were lying.

Bummer. Only trial I failed to gain a conviction, sadly, though the accused was administratively released.

Never did charge the witnesses for perjury. Civilian kitchen staff.
 
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There's a general assumption that an honest person will be able to explain themselves without needing to speak to a lawyer first about what they should and shouldn't say / needing time to come up with a story. That assumption has been built into law in the UK since the 90s, now - at ponit of arrest, the arrested person is told that they have the right to remain silent, however it may harm their defence if you later rely in court on something they don't say at tiem of arrest - i.e. a judge and or jury are permitted to assume the reason they didn't come up with their alibi immiediately is because they needed time to make it up.
Yes, I noticed the difference in the Miranda when watching Line of Duty. In The First 48 when they run the outcomes the guys that lawyer up invariably get lighter sentences than their cohorts who blab in the box.
 

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Not really binging, as I'm stil working full-time, but we sould finish upSeason 4 of Man in the High Castle in a few days, then start catching up on Better Call Saul.

Look forward to seeing what you make of the ending of MITHC. I thought it worked well, with its effectiveness in no smallpart down to a great cxast, especially Rufus Sewell. A bravura performance throughout the entire run, really convincing in how someone from a defeated Allied nation could conceivably get so embroiled with the victors.

Season 5 of Better Call SAul isabelter, I just finished it this week. I have a feeling we've got one more series in it before we get fully into the Breaking Bad timeline - though if they write it cleverly enough, I don't see whay they couldn't take it beyond a prequel and work it around the events of BB. I wonder too if we'll see much more than (as so far) just framing the show's events with 'present day' / post-BB Saul, or if there will be a conclusion to his story there...

As a lawyer in Canada I have envied that aspect of law. I love hearing it in the many English crime dramas we love.

Sadly, it is full right to silence here, no motives may be impugned at trial. As a military prosecutor I was blindsided at a court martial. Turns out the Crown witnesses were lying.

Bummer. Only trial I failed to gain a conviction, sadly, though the accused was administratively released.

Never did charge the witnesses for perjury. Civilian kitchen staff.

I suppose if every trial where somebody is clearly fibbing led to a perjury prosecution, we'd end up with the system choked by them.

It certainly has been a siginificant switch. I'm not wholly opposed to the concept, but (particularly bearing in mind some of the miscarriage of justice cases in the past), I can see how expecting anyone to talk without alawyer could lead some to panic or be open to abuse. All the same, my experience of the English police, limited as it is, has suggested that they've done a lot to weed out bad practice in recent years, and that the average, honest person has little to fear. Those most likely to get hurt by this are, in my estimation, those who were up to no good (whether they committed that specific crime, or are hiding something else), and those who try to stand on principle and make a show of demanding a lawyer - you know, the entitled types who think that *they* should never be questioned by the police and kick off rather than donig the sensible thing...
 

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Look forward to seeing what you make of the ending of MITHC. I thought it worked well, with its effectiveness in no smallpart down to a great cxast, especially Rufus Sewell. A bravura performance throughout the entire run, really convincing in how someone from a defeated Allied nation could conceivably get so embroiled with the victors.

Season 5 of Better Call SAul isabelter, I just finished it this week. I have a feeling we've got one more series in it before we get fully into the Breaking Bad timeline - though if they write it cleverly enough, I don't see whay they couldn't take it beyond a prequel and work it around the events of BB. I wonder too if we'll see much more than (as so far) just framing the show's events with 'present day' / post-BB Saul, or if there will be a conclusion to his story there...



I suppose if every trial where somebody is clearly fibbing led to a perjury prosecution, we'd end up with the system choked by them.

It certainly has been a siginificant switch. I'm not wholly opposed to the concept, but (particularly bearing in mind some of the miscarriage of justice cases in the past), I can see how expecting anyone to talk without alawyer could lead some to panic or be open to abuse. All the same, my experience of the English police, limited as it is, has suggested that they've done a lot to weed out bad practice in recent years, and that the average, honest person has little to fear. Those most likely to get hurt by this are, in my estimation, those who were up to no good (whether they committed that specific crime, or are hiding something else), and those who try to stand on principle and make a show of demanding a lawyer - you know, the entitled types who think that *they* should never be questioned by the police and kick off rather than donig the sensible thing...

The next season of Saul has been announced as the last. On my list of things to watch next. I have seen only one scene - early on, he's at the home of an older woman, house filled with chotchkies, and she is coming downstairs on a rail chair at tortoise speed, to show him some piece of rubbish she wants mentioned in her will.

What made this hilarious to me is that, having briefly been in a private solicitors' practice, that happened with regularity. My most vivid memory is drafting the language to leave a macrame owl to a niece.
 
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The next season of Saul has been announced as the last. On my list of things to watch next. I have seen only one scene - early on, he's at the home of an older woman, house filled with chotchkies, and she is coming downstairs on a rail chair at tortoise speed, to show him some piece of rubbish she wants mentioned in her will.

What made this hilarious to me is that, having briefly been in a private solicitors' practice, that happened with regularity. My most vivid memory is drafting the language to leave a macrome owl to a niece.
 

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We have finished watching all nine seasons of TWD on Netflix so our daughters have caught up as much as they can.

The tenth and most recent season (we regret not catching them up earlier) is of course ALMOST over, but due to the recent events, the last episode (or two?) is not finished, so we assume this season will not be released on Netflix yet, unless they release the partial season with the finale to come.

Also now half way through the seventh and final season of Mad Men. Loving it.
 
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Look forward to seeing what you make of the ending of MITHC. I thought it worked well, with its effectiveness in no smallpart down to a great cxast, especially Rufus Sewell. A bravura performance throughout the entire run, really convincing in how someone from a defeated Allied nation could conceivably get so embroiled with the victors.

Season 5 of Better Call SAul is a belter, I just finished it this week. I have a feeling we've got one more series in it before we get fully into the Breaking Bad timeline - though if they write it cleverly enough, I don't see whay they couldn't take it beyond a prequel and work it around the events of BB. I wonder too if we'll see much more than (as so far) just framing the show's events with 'present day' / post-BB Saul, or if there will be a conclusion to his story there...

We finished MITHC earlier this week. I think they ended it pretty well. I've never read the PK Dick novel, so really had no idea of where the story might end. In fact, when we began the series, we really had no idea what type of series it was. I thought it was just an alternate history and, not being familiar with the novel, the sci-fi twists, when they showed up, were actually a pleasant surprise.

SOMEWHAT SPOILERY AHEAD

Ending a series is always a challenge, and few seem to get it right., but they seemed to thread the needle pretty good here. My wife wanted a dues ex machina, where everything was set right in the end. Being sci-fi, the open ended resolution was pretty satisfying to me. Plus, the actions of Smith's successor at the end meant things were going to probably move toward getting back on track.

Kido's story arc was well-played. His redemption came in the form of denying his principles.

END OF SOMEWHAT SPOILERY SECTION

We're four eps into the Saul season. Pretty good so far.
 

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I watched Badlands last year. I actually liked it a lot - the ending was okay enough for me, though the final shot was a bit cheesy. I did fidn it a shame there wasn't more about the breakdown of the old world in it, though - what exactly happened, how did it go the way it did, and how did they manage to get rid of all the guns in practical terms?

Just once, I'd love to see the resolution of one of these shows turn out that it wasn't the whole world after all, but that one place - the US or Canada or the UK or wherever - had collapsed in on itself, while everywhere else had carried on as normal. That would make for a fantastic reveal, a real clash between the two, and a peep into a world where a dominant cultural force like the US, for instance, wasn't there - how might the UK, or Aus, or Germany or..... whatever be different absentv the influence of Hollywood, for instance. And how would our protagonists feel to think the rest of the world had abandoned them to contain the collapse?
 
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We've been working our way through The Loop, on Amazon. Sort of a dark version of the TV series Eureka, if you're looking for an inadequate comparison. The stories are interesting, but the writing seems to be a little hit-or-miss.

But I keep watching the next episode.
 

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We've been working our way through The Loop, on Amazon. Sort of a dark version of the TV series Eureka, if you're looking for an inadequate comparison. The stories are interesting, but the writing seems to be a little hit-or-miss.

But I keep watching the next episode.

Is that the one that sort of reimagines the eighties with sci-fi tech?
 

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So I have finally finished Mad Men, and thoroughly enjoyed it. The final season and a half had a few odd moments, but nothing that affected my overall impression of the show.

And, as more argument against the ass hats who make fun of me for still buying disks, MM is being discontinued on N Flix CANADA June 10th. I may or may not buy MM, but the point is - NF does not in fact have "everything".

We are also on season 3 of Schitts Creek, and I have unwrapped season 3 of Longmire. I have seen the complete series, but had not rewatched anything beyond season 2 since it ended.

And yes, I am buying the entire series on blu-ray!
 
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Is that the one that sort of reimagines the eighties with sci-fi tech?

It's actually called Tales From the Loop. It's set in the 80s, in the fictional town of Mercer, Ohio. The two major employers are the Loop, which is some sort of high-tech research facility of indeterminate mission. The other is the Quarry, where you go to make rocks if, presumably, you're not smart enough for the Loop.

So far, four eps in, it has seemed to deal with sci-fi artifacts in the town that can change things, and the moral, ethical, and personality challenges that come with using them. It's very noir and a bit dystopian. The only actor I recognize is Jonathan Price.
 

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So I have finally finished Mad Men, and thoroughly enjoyed it. The final season and a half had a few odd moments, but nothing that affected my overall impression of the show.

And, as more argument against the ass hats who make fun of me for still buying disks, MM is being discontinued on N Fix CANADA June 10th. I may or may not buy MM, but the point is - NF does not in fact have "everything".

We are also on season 3 of Schitts Creek, and I have unwrapped season 3 of Longmire. I have seen the complete series, but had notbrewatched anything beyond season 2 since it ended.

And yes, I am buying the entire series on blu-ray!

Just make sure to check first that the series was originally shot in high enough def to justify BD; I've seen a few things where the BD didn't add any perceptible improvement over the upscaling a good BD player does on a DVD on the basis that there wasn't anything in the code used for the disk that improved the picture quality and such. Might be worth it if they did a new sound mix, of course.

I remain a fan of disk myself for things I really love and want to keep forever. Funnily enough, I've sort of gone backwards. When DVD first came out, I'd only buy a disk, rather than hire, if it was something I wanted to keep forever and would be certain to watch often enough that I'd "save" over the "hire price". Then the prcie of DVDs started to nosedive to the point where anything six months out and older was a fiver or less on single disk, and hire shops started to go out of business.... When a film costs three or four pounds to buy, less than the cost of one person's trip to the cinema, well.... that's when I ended up buying stuff just to see it, and the size of my collection rocketed. I really need to pare it down and clear out a lot, though reselling isn't much of an option nowadays because of the drop off in price...

Since we got in Netflix and Prime, we definitely consume more that way for the price than we'd have done spending the same money on disks. It's not put me off disk, rather what hashappened is I've reverted to my prior position of keeping a smaller collection of DVDs and BDs of films I really want to "own forever", while I use streaming media as a replacement for both linear television and those disks I was buying "just to see". Like you, I perceive a value in the less ephemeral. I'm the same, but moreso, with music.

It's actually called Tales From the Loop. It's set in the 80s, in the fictional town of Mercer, Ohio. The two major employers are the Loop, which is some sort of high-tech research facility of indeterminate mission. The other is the Quarry, where you go to make rocks if, presumably, you're not smart enough for the Loop.

So far, four eps in, it has seemed to deal with sci-fi artifacts in the town that can change things, and the moral, ethical, and personality challenges that come with using them. It's very noir and a bit dystopian. The only actor I recognize is Jonathan Price.

Sounds like a Twin Peaks / Black Mirror mash up of sorts.... I'll definitely give that a go once I've caught up on the last run of Sabrina. Thanks!
 

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Funny you mention the BD upgrade issue. I have Withnail and I on DVD, Criterion Collection, with lots of great features. I was pumped when I saw a BD version and got it. Great picture and sound, but NO features other than the trailer, which was on the DVD.

I watch the BD movie now, then switch disks to watch the featurettes.

Just make sure to check first that the series was originally shot in high enough def to justify BD; I've seen a few things where the BD didn't add any perceptible improvement over the upscaling a good BD player does on a DVD on the basis that there wasn't anything in the code used for the disk that improved the picture quality and such. Might be worth it if they did a new sound mix, of course.

I remain a fan of disk myself for things I really love and want to keep forever. Funnily enough, I've sort of gone backwards. When DVD first came out, I'd only buy a disk, rather than hire, if it was something I wanted to keep forever and would be certain to watch often enough that I'd "save" over the "hire price". Then the prcie of DVDs started to nosedive to the point where anything six months out and older was a fiver or less on single disk, and hire shops started to go out of business.... When a film costs three or four pounds to buy, less than the cost of one person's trip to the cinema, well.... that's when I ended up buying stuff just to see it, and the size of my collection rocketed. I really need to pare it down and clear out a lot, though reselling isn't much of an option nowadays because of the drop off in price...

Since we got in Netflix and Prime, we definitely consume more that way for the price than we'd have done spending the same money on disks. It's not put me off disk, rather what hashappened is I've reverted to my prior position of keeping a smaller collection of DVDs and BDs of films I really want to "own forever", while I use streaming media as a replacement for both linear television and those disks I was buying "just to see". Like you, I perceive a value in the less ephemeral. I'm the same, but moreso, with music.



Sounds like a Twin Peaks / Black Mirror mash up of sorts.... I'll definitely give that a go once I've caught up on the last run of Sabrina. Thanks!
 

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