I think a frequent point made about CXL, that it’s a great shoe shoe leather more then a garment leather, might be truer for Badalassi. You wouldn’t have that kind of friction in a pair of shoes or boots.
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Aero Premiere 1930s Half Belt Russet Badalassi- SQUEAKING
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I think a frequent point made about CXL, that it’s a great shoe shoe leather more then a garment leather, might be truer for Badalassi. You wouldn’t have that kind of friction in a pair of shoes or boots.
Could well be. CXL, of the dozens and dozens I’ve had, none have ever sounded like this. I’ve had some squeaky Vansons. But nothing like this. This is like walking into a room full of strangers with a kazoo in your ass after 8 bowls of spice level 10, along came Polly, Indian food. It really announces your presence. Hard pass. I don’t know how you fix it. Rubbing alcohol? I assume the super high gloss topcoat is the culprit.
Yeah that’s my point. People say that about CXL but it has no friction squeak.
DamonCyclee
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could you not strip the finish like how you would strip the alden shells? ergo bye bye squeaking.
With rubbing alcohol and then recondition with bick 4 if not black, then something more nutritious if black color
With rubbing alcohol and then recondition with bick 4 if not black, then something more nutritious if black color
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Agree. This is the first time I hear this and no other jacket of mine sounds like this; I couldn‘t stand that.
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I haven't had this with any of my jackets except the Badalassi. Once with a 5*, but only after I had treated it with snow seal. But quieter.
With the Badalassi it is very loud at the beginning and over time the initial squeaking changes to creaking. My black one is now tolerable... or I've got used to it
Nevertheless, I really like the Badalassi (otherwise I would hardly have bought a second one).
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I have used shellac on leather projects, that also makes leather squeak, I would not recommend removing the top layer with alcohol. It is their to protect the leather.
In time the topcoat of the leather will break in and the sqeaking will get a lot less.
I have a 3 year old teamster from russet badalassi the squeaking is nearly gone
In time the topcoat of the leather will break in and the sqeaking will get a lot less.
I have a 3 year old teamster from russet badalassi the squeaking is nearly gone
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Well, it's beeswax, and not acrylic top coating as I had first suspected.
A bit more back ground story, I have never used beeswax before but see it mentioned here and there. So when I first got some beeswax and rubbed it between my leather gloves, it made the exact same sounds as the Baddieassy leather. I did a bunch of other things like rubbing the beeswax (solid form) directly onto the jacket and polish with horse hair brush and so on.
Anyways, long story short, to get rid of the sounds, you would have to remove the beeswax coating. Washing would do it fast, but I am gonna take the long road and brush and wear. A side effect of brushing is it makes the leather darker, I would guess it brings the fats in the leather to the surface and then it looks darker,
Beeswax by itself is really damn loud, screeching banshee loud. But it also gives that natural shiny surface that Resolene just can't compare. I think people can crack the sound code by mixing a ratio of fats into their beeswax mix so they can get the best of both worlds, shiny and not screaming loud, I will try that when it gets even warmer. But for now, it's just brushing and wearing. I will see if the beeswax top coat can be tamed just by brushing and wearing over the course of the month.
Sick rolls on the sleeves though from the beeswax, and smells like honey,
And two other side notes, the solid form beeswax does leave streaks on the leather (and somewhat sticky), it needs to get warmed up to semi liquid / not full solid form. Also I figured out a way to wear my Aero CR with the forward collar casually without injuries, just have to flip it back, I will take it to have the mandarin collar professionally removed so it's like a collar less CR.
A bit more back ground story, I have never used beeswax before but see it mentioned here and there. So when I first got some beeswax and rubbed it between my leather gloves, it made the exact same sounds as the Baddieassy leather. I did a bunch of other things like rubbing the beeswax (solid form) directly onto the jacket and polish with horse hair brush and so on.
Anyways, long story short, to get rid of the sounds, you would have to remove the beeswax coating. Washing would do it fast, but I am gonna take the long road and brush and wear. A side effect of brushing is it makes the leather darker, I would guess it brings the fats in the leather to the surface and then it looks darker,
Beeswax by itself is really damn loud, screeching banshee loud. But it also gives that natural shiny surface that Resolene just can't compare. I think people can crack the sound code by mixing a ratio of fats into their beeswax mix so they can get the best of both worlds, shiny and not screaming loud, I will try that when it gets even warmer. But for now, it's just brushing and wearing. I will see if the beeswax top coat can be tamed just by brushing and wearing over the course of the month.
Sick rolls on the sleeves though from the beeswax, and smells like honey,
And two other side notes, the solid form beeswax does leave streaks on the leather (and somewhat sticky), it needs to get warmed up to semi liquid / not full solid form. Also I figured out a way to wear my Aero CR with the forward collar casually without injuries, just have to flip it back, I will take it to have the mandarin collar professionally removed so it's like a collar less CR.
Thank you for posting this experiment. Does this mean all Thedi washed/waxed leathers will creak? How do all of your jackets sound?
Canuck Panda
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Short answer no, they’re very different leathers.
The squeaky sound may be an issue in small space like elevator, inside car…etc. when you’re out and about you would hardly notice it at all.
An update to my previous post. Bootlegger in russet. I received the jacket in March-April and hate Badalassi. I absolutely hate this leather!
Aero's work is spot on, the jacket looks amazing, but that non stop squeeking drives me up the wall!
My wife asked I don't wear it when we go out together it's that bad.
Friends and even complete strangers have asked me why my jacket is so loud and I even got a few questions if it's cheap quality leather.
I'd never recommend anyone get a Badalassi jacket. Get anything but Badalassi. I don't want to take a bath selling it and I didn't want an expensive motorcycle jacket but that's what all I do with it now because my obnoxiously loud Harley Davidson is the only thing that drowns out the noise. LOL
Same here. Although my chestnut is louder than my black one. As much as I like the leather, I won't be buying another one. But I wear them anyway. And nobody has ever spoken to me ;-)
Kevin Rohrer
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I have always enjoyed the creaking of leather. It lets me know I am wearing a quality product.
