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Aero Board Racer Ancestors?

pipvh

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Here's a question for Dinerman and the other historians: Aero are calling their Board Racer a classic 1930s design, but when did the 'cafe racer' design first appear? By which I mean the mandarin collar, central zipper form we're all familiar with. I've seen the Lewis Leathers International Racer but that's double-breasted (and designed to be part of a suit). Are there any classic cafe racers that actually date from the 1930s?

Asking because I'm seriously considering a Board Racer (such a purist's design, and the collar looks right for non-bike wear) or - it's a long shot - a Himel Bros Kensington, and I'm curious from a history point of view...
 

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I was always led to believe that the advent of the Boco J-100 started the trend for mandarin collared neat fitting M/C jackets ... Cafe Racers ... in the 1950's. There were many collar-less jackets which preceeded it .... and I'm sure I've seen a few early M/C jackets which had combined W / mandarin collars but most had lancer style zippers.

Board Racing was at it's peak in the 1910's and 20's before the advent of the zipper .. it was on the wane by the 1930's but most of the pics ( albeit not all ) had these guys racing in woolen team sweaters ( weight was more paramount than protection) indeed leather pads and breeches were prevailant but jackets or jerkins were less common from wha I've seen. If leather jackets were worn it is unlikely that they were specifically designed and rather bought off the shelf ( so to speak) .. .these were the days before full face helmets and kevlar. I have not seen any with a mandarin collar.

It's a really simple and neat styled jacket though ( although it looks more 50's if I'm honest) .... one of the new ones I like :D

Just MHO ..
 
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pipvh

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I was always led to believe that the advent of the Boco J-100 started the trend for mandarin collared neat fitting M/C jackets ... Cafe Racers ... in the 1950's. There were many collar-less jackets which preceeded it .... and I'm sure I've seen a few early M/C jackets which had combined W / mandarin collars but most had lancer style zippers.

Yes, that's my understanding as well. Though come to think of it, there were some very simple jerkin-style, button-up collarless jackets in the 1910s and early 20s.

Board Racing was at it's peak in the 1910's and 20's before the advent of the zipper .. it was on the wane by the 1930's but most of the pics ( albeit not all ) had these guys racing in woolen team sweaters ( weight was more paramount than protection) indeed leather pads and breeches were prevailant but jackets or jerkins were less common from wha I've seen.

You can see leathers being worn in old photos of Brooklands and the Isle of Man TT, for instance, but they always seem to be the lancer-style ones. I love the old racing sweaters but if you read accounts of the accidents on those board tracks, you can't help wondering whether they should have insisted on something a bit more substantial than a wooly pully.
 

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Most of the center-zip mandarin collar jackets of the 1930s that I've seen look more like this:
I realise I'm probably using the term Cafe Racer incorrectly, but here I'm using the term to refer to leather jackets with short stand collars. These have all come from London vintage shops over the last 4 years and cost peanuts; total under £100. There is another (included in the £100 total) that I'll photograph tonight. The first one is Canadian. The deer one is almost certainly Canadian. The black one I have to photograph is also Canadian.

1930s/early 1940s. Lining has been replaced; the remnants of the original plaid liner are in the seams. The top pocket originally had a zipper - no doubt ball and chain-type - which i will replace when I replace the acetate replacement liner with the correct plaid wool.

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1940s. All zippers replacements.

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Lilac leather inserts in the pleats at the rear belt. the same leather in inserted into the pleats at the front waistband top.

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Late 1940s. American. Now in the possession of Benstephens

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Thanks for that, Dinerman! I knew you'd have something!

So pre-Buco, we're looking at a sort of cafe-halfbelt prototype?
 

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I don't know how much Buco had to do with actually designing the style. They just have brand recognition so they get name dropped. As an aside - Joeseph Buegeleisen didn't start his company until the end of the '30s, and at that point was selling mostly motorcycle accessories.
The style of the jacket above is more of a late '40s-1960s thing- the evolution of the 1930s racing shirts, rather than a repro of one.

That said, the mandarin collar and throat latch do go way way back. Here's an example from 1932, courtesy Baron Kurtz
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I suppose this is an early incarnation, with buttons: img143.jpg
Bert LeVack, Brooklands 1922 (courtesy of The Vintagent)
 

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Board Racing was at it's peak in the 1910's and 20's before the advent of the zipper .. it was on the wane by the 1930's but most of the pics ( albeit not all ) had these guys racing in woolen team sweaters ( weight was more paramount than protection)

I always thought the board track racers looked amazing. While researching the sport, I noticed that they did indeed wear very stylish woolen sweaters. These were common among hill climbers as well. Naturally I found one and it has become my regular motorcycle attire. As far as leather goes, I have been saving up for Magnoli's Hughes Jacket.

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I always thought the board track racers looked amazing. While researching the sport, I noticed that they did indeed wear very stylish woolen sweaters. These were common among hill climbers as well. Naturally I found one and it has become my regular motorcycle attire. As far as leather goes, I have been saving up for Magnoli's Hughes Jacket.

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I picked up a similar wool sweater from Dehen recently, a little more subdued than yours though ;) Very nice, super thick, and top quality - no pics to share yet, sorry :(
 
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Almost all of them wore sweaters. I was told, at one time, even the Harley hog had his own little sweater!
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That's bonkers: "Hmmm, the track looks particularly slippery today. Think I'll put my extra thick sweater. That should do it..."
 

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That's bonkers: "Hmmm, the track looks particularly slippery today. Think I'll put my extra thick sweater. That should do it..."

I'm guessing in part it was the development of bigger, faster bikes that stimulatd the market for more protective gear, but yeah.... seems mad!
 

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I suppose scooter owners can zip around with just helmets on, but you've got to imagine the board track racers had a bit more poke, especially when you think that they were the forerunner to dirt track racing.
 

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