ADAM ALLEY

[billyspew]

Very nice! What are you thinking on the dates? Looking forward to seeing the others in detail.

For the first 2 it's probably early 50's.

 

[billyspew]

Probable early fifties Pacesetter.

 

[billyspew]

Price Timeline for dating purposes... these are confirmed price points only.

1940 - $2.95
1941 - $3.25
1942 - $3.45
1945 - $3.45-$10.00
1946 - $3.95-$10.00, Adam Hat Stores, Inc. slashed $10, $12.50 and $15 models to a flat $8.45.
1947 - $4.95-$7.50
1948 - $5.00, $6.00, $7.50, $8.50, $10.00
1949 - $5.00, $6.50, $7.50
1950 - $5, $6, $7.50
1951 - Milans $3.95 & $5.00, Panamas $3.95-$7.50, Barbosa $2.95, Fur felts $5.00-$10.00, Strand $7.50, Romabout $7.50
1952 - $5.00-$10.00, Pacesetter $7.50
1953 - $6.00 & $7.50
1954 - $5.95-$10.00
1955 - Most Styles $7.50, $10.00 Others From $5.00
1956 - $5.95-$10.00
1957 - Flat top $7.95
1959 - $6.95, $8.95, $10.95
1960 - $8.95
1962 - Pacesetter $9.95, Vari-Ames $9.95, Monroe $9.95, Plaza $9.95, Marston $7.95

 

[munchausen]

Pricing timeline

Thanks for that information, Billy and by the way I like your new Adam acquisitions. When I was originally searching the forum on vintage hat makers and they kept putting Adam at the bottom it helped me form an opinion of them. But with my own Adam coming, I am looking forward to being proven wrong.

Also, in my eyes your approaching Brad Bowers - Cavanagh status.

Cheers

 

[billyspew]

Thanks Munchausen, think I have a ways to go before I'm at Mr. Bowers' level.


Here's the current list of models I've compiled so far.

Mainliner
Pacesetter
Sundial
Romabout
Strand
Statesman
Vari-Ames
Monroe
Plaza
Marston
Waco
Havard 40
Ralston
Continental
Futura
Major
Madison
Hampton
Exton
Crosley
L.B.J.
Tremont
The Envoy
Airlines
Mr Boulevard

Hopefully will be able to add to this over time.

 

[billyspew]

Here's some TMs that may aid logo/hat dating...

Sweatband logo, applied for 21st September 1949, registered 12th June 1951

Liner logo, applied for 31st March 1950, registered 31st July 1951

Liner logo, applied for 16th May 1952, registered 18th August 1953

Eva-Shape Sweatband logo, applied for 31st March 1950, registered 27th November 1951

Mystrionic sweatband logo, applied for 15th November 1952, registered 22nd December 1953

Adam Sportwear logo? applied for 11th October 1952, registered 18th August 1953

 

[jimmy the lid]

Great info, Billy. Thanks for all of your work on this! :eusa_clap

As far as trademark registrations go, the trademark application will list a "date of first use" -- which may help to fine tune when these logos actually first appeared on Adam hats.

Cheers,
JtL

 

[billyspew]

Unfortunately, I cannot find them on the USPTO site, which would normally have them - I ended up on LexisNexis.

 

[RobStC]

Adam logos

Many thanks for this sort of info, Billyspew, and for posting so much on this thread. I've got a couple of Adams' on the way from Jonnyphi - didn't check out his stock until most of the gems had gone :eusa_doh: - but very much looking forward to joining the Adam Alley soon.

You have some really nice hats, by the way..... (as if you didn't already know that!)

RobStC

 

[billyspew]

Many thanks for this sort of info, Billyspew, and for posting so much on this thread. I've got a couple of Adams' on the way from Jonnyphi - didn't check out his stock until most of the gems had gone :eusa_doh: - but very much looking forward to joining the Adam Alley soon.

You have some really nice hats, by the way..... (as if you didn't already know that!)

RobStC

Thanks RobStC.
I'm sure you'll be very pleased with them... he is putting more up all the time it seems so keep checking his site. Three turned up this morning for me, can't wait to get home and open the box(es).

 

[billyspew]

As promised, here's the latest of my Adam's Family.
This is an Executive Quality, "Mr. Boulevard" Pacesetter, Tan/Brown, wonderful lining, smallish 2 1/4" brim.

 

[billyspew]

Adam Majestic quality York, nice tan/brown with a lighter coloured ribbon/brim edge, 5 3/4" open crown, 2 7/8" brim

 

[billyspew]

Adam Executive quality Newport, wonderful taupe/grey with a pinkish ribbon, 5 1/2" crown, 2 1/2" brim

 

[billyspew]

Thanks Munchausen, think I have a ways to go before I'm at Mr. Bowers' level.


Here's the current list of models I've compiled so far.

Mainliner
Pacesetter
Sundial
Romabout
Strand
Statesman
Vari-Ames
Monroe
Plaza
Marston
Waco
Havard 40
Ralston
Continental
Futura
Major
Madison
Hampton
Exton
Crosley
L.B.J.
Tremont
The Envoy
Airlines
Mr Boulevard -Pacesetter?
Newport
York
Sutton
Texarkana

Hopefully will be able to add to this over time.

Couple of the latest additions ^^

 

[Lefty]

Most of my Adam ads are too small to read the model names. I'm not sure if this model of hat is the Mr. Main Street, or if that's just the "look" that the hat will give the wearer.

Edit: Apparently, it's either part of a line of hats, or a campaign that includes Mr Boulevard.

1951

 

[suitedcboy]

WOW WOW WOW Billy.

What a fantastic trio there!

 

[RobStC]

Billy's new Adams

:rage: :rage: :rage: I might have known that you were buying up all those lovely size 7 1/4 Adams that I'd love to own..... :rage: :rage: :rage:

Seriously, some great colours and proportions in there, especially the Newport.

"The boy done good"..... again!:eusa_clap

Yours jealously,
Rob St.C

 

[munchausen]

A new old stock Adam Porkpie

Hi all

This is a new Adams that I picked up from ebay. Original price tag of $8.95 is still in there and I have to say, it is the loosest 7 1/4 I've tried on. I still think I prefer it brim snapped down, but maybe it'll grow on me. When I snap the brim up, it reminds me of Jon Cryer in Sixteen Candles. I know he had big hair and it wasn't a porkpie, but it's the connotation of geeky best friend that I don't like.

Yay, my first membership to one of the clubs on the FL!

 

[billyspew]

Hi all

This is a new Adams that I picked up from ebay. Original price tag of $8.95 is still in there and I have to say, it is the loosest 7 1/4 I've tried on. I still think I prefer it brim snapped down, but maybe it'll grow on me. When I snap the brim up, it reminds me of Jon Cryer in Sixteen Candles. I know he had big hair and it wasn't a porkpie, but it's the connotation of geeky best friend that I don't like.

Yay, my first membership to one of the clubs on the FL!

Looks good there munchausen, up or down. Welcome to the club, you got a steal there.

Any chance of posting the detailing on the liner, sweatband and anything under the sweatband?

 

[munchausen]

Not a problem

Looks good there munchausen, up or down. Welcome to the club, you got a steal there.

Any chance of posting the detailing on the liner, sweatband and anything under the sweatband?

Hi Billy

Nothing besides the tags under the sweat. I've seen photos where there's writing from the makers. I'll post the pics up with shots of the liner. Sorry the lighting's bad and when you stick a camera over it to take a shot, it diminishes further (ie. too lazy to get the torch from the garage).

In the last pic, size tag broke off as I played with the sweat. It's maroon coloured with gold lettering. "Adam 7 1/4"