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Wil Tam

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Finally scored a Stetson Sovereign Open Road in my size .... this was a mess but the leather sweat was still supple so it was still serviceable .. the ribbon on the other hand was cut by the original or last owner, I guess he didn't like the tails [huh] The hat is incredibility soft and light weight with only one moth bite in the back bottom of the brim.

Sorry no pics of the original hat on my noggin ... It looked funny, I can't pull of a cattleman crease.
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carter

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Wil, Once you have that one cleaned-up and have reshaped the crease, you'll have a fine looking hat. Looking forward to the "after" pictures.
 

Wil Tam

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Washed the body because it was grungy then 'blocked' on my jar

I let it dry then restitched the sweat back on with my other stitch awl that could take the finer sewing machine needles [and yes Bolthead, they're grooved also]. It went very smoothly and straight enough to be sober.

The under side of the ribbon & leather sweatband still had the un-faded original color ... I don't know if this lid came with a lining or not.

I didn't want to reuse the ribbon on here so I toyed with the leather one I had. But ended up swapping out from another & worked out nicely

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Aren't sweats usually sewed to the hat body through an inner flange on the outward side of the sweat, for that purpose? I only mention this for the sake of the look of the leather, and the comfort factor, since stitching directly against your skin is not as easy on the head, especialy forehead, as leather alone. Probably because this is the rear of the hat, it won't matter, unless you're a bit thin on top like I am.


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Wil Tam

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deanglen said:
Aren't sweats usually sewed to the hat body through an inner flange on the outward side of the sweat, for that purpose? I only mention this for the sake of the look of the leather, and the comfort factor, since stitching directly against your skin is not as easy on the head, especialy forehead, as leather alone. Probably because this is the rear of the hat, it won't matter, unless you're a bit thin on top like I am.


dean

Yes that would be the 'proper way' and done with a machine ... I tried on numerous occasions to achieve that but got frustrated ... really difficult to do by hand even with basting stitches.

I don't even feel the stitching and the sweat still trumpets when I stitch through the leather.


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Wil Tam

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Thanks Fellas

I can always count on you guys for an honest opinion!

gtdean I tried it with the brim snapped down but it looks odd ... it looks best this way.
 

J.T.Marcus

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Wil, Your skills are growing by leaps and bounds. Not only did you do a graet job, but you showed us, step by step!

Like you, I found it virtually impossible to hide the stitches under the sweatband. For dean's benefit, when a fine thread is used, and pulled tight, it sinks down below the surface of the leather. Only the leather touches your skin.

The finished product is beautiful. Best hat we've seen on you! The way you have shaped the brim , you should be able to snap it down (and then back up) with no adverse effects. That gives you "two hats in one." :eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap
 

HarpPlayerGene

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Wil Tam said:
I can always count on you guys for an honest opinion!

gtdean I tried it with the brim snapped down but it looks odd ... it looks best this way.

I've got some like that and I go with that same brim curl (with downward swoop) solution when that's the case. I think you really brought that one around, Wil. Where'd you score that ribbon?
 

Wil Tam

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from another hat

HarpPlayerGene said:
I've got some like that and I go with that same brim curl (with downward swoop) solution when that's the case. I think you really brought that one around, Wil. Where'd you score that ribbon?

I'm famous for the migrating ribbon trick ;)

this one was from a Schoble Idler beater I have, my fishing hat, It has one of my self crafted ones on it now.

I reused the one that was originally on this lid on another, a brown wide brim ... and the thin silver ribbon just pops out.

I'll post pics of it later
 

Wil Tam

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J.T.Marcus said:
Wil, Your skills are growing by leaps and bounds. Not only did you do a great job, but you showed us, step by step!

Like you, I found it virtually impossible to hide the stitches under the sweatband. For dean's benefit, when a fine thread is used, and pulled tight, it sinks down below the surface of the leather. Only the leather touches your skin.

The finished product is beautiful. Best hat we've seen on you! The way you have shaped the brim , you should be able to snap it down (and then back up) with no adverse effects. That gives you "two hats in one." :eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap

Thanks JT

Like I always say, this is a great learning experience for me & I still have much to learn on the subject, I get an education from almost every post I read on here.

I just bought a Brother tabletop sewing machine for $25.00 that I need to train on.

I'll play with the brim a little more, right now when I snap it down it looks odd to me.
 

kiltie

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GREAT JOB

I have to say my favorite thing about the way this unfolded on the page is that you had a picture in your mind of what you wanted and brought it to life. :eusa_clap It's not the "same old thing" we see in the Open Roads, and believe me, I'm a BIG fan of the "same old thing". I second JT Marcus' comments, and applaud your imagination.
 

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Look'in Brave

You are a brave man, Wil, for tackling these beater cases. You seem to have a nack for letting a hat go where it will go and don't fret over making it in to something that it can never be without a complete professional cleaning and blocking. That would remove the life history from the hat anyway.....

I dig the turned up brim. It packs plenty of attitude and reflects a pinch of bravery too. Just feel free to snap it down when the suns out no matter how bad you think it looks. You can tweak it.
 

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Well Done, Wil!

Another stressed out hat saved from the dust bin, and with panache. And I agree with you, the brim looks right the way it is, for whatever reason.
 

deanglen

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Yeah, I know how tough it is, I gave up on doing 'right' myself, and resorted to using an adhesive in a couple of instances. Not proud of it, but the frustration was simply too great. Good stitching job, BTW, Will! Love your work.

Wil Tam said:
Yes that would be the 'proper way' and done with a machine ... I tried on numerous occasions to achieve that but got frustrated ... really difficult to do by hand even with basting stitches.

I don't even feel the stitching and the sweat still trumpets when I stitch through the leather.


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