It’s incredible—almost funny—how perfectly this reply proves the very point I keep raising—yet again! It’s like some of you just can’t help yourselves. You keep doing the exact thing at the heart of my concern with this thread.
This was never about who’s the “smartest person in the room.” It’s...
Ah, yes—when in doubt, make fun of the words instead of engaging with the argument. A classic move. But hey, if vocabulary is the real issue here, I can always dial it down. Wouldn't want to overwhelm the sewing circle.
You guys are the bullies here. I came in for a real discussion, and all I...
Ahh... the golden age... You ever hear of Ultrasuede partner? A true revolution. Practical, stylish, and ready for the disco or the desert.
And hey, I appreciate a good virus—the kind that shakes things up, forces evolution. Keeps things interesting.
So just to be clear—this distinction is based entirely on how the jackets ‘appear’ to you? One brand ‘looks more refined,’ while the other ‘looks like’ a budget-tier jacket? That’s the depth of analysis we’re working with?
You’re not pointing to leather grades, stitching comparisons, pattern...
Oh, I get it. It’s the too long; didn’t read defense, but with a polite handshake. Respect.
That said, I do think it’s funny how often ‘not having time’ is selectively deployed. People here will happily spend days debating the stitch density on a 1940s repro, but a discussion about the broader...
Oh, I love this! So now we’ve moved from gatekeeping ‘heritage’ to declaring it culturally dead. Rugged workwear is the new North Face? Maybe in some corners of the internet, sure. But the funny thing about subcultures is that they don’t exist in a vacuum—they ebb and flow, sometimes codifying...
Ah, 'heritage bullshit'—a bold stance from The Lost Cowboy, a name is steeped in the iconography of a bygone era. A cowboy without heritage is just… lost, I suppose?
But let’s put that aside. If you have ‘zero interest’ in heritage, why are you so invested in this conversation and in dictating...
Ah, 'The Lost Cowboy'—a man of the open range, untamed by convention, guided only by his own rugged individualism… except, of course, when it comes to breaking ranks with groupthink in a leather jacket forum. Then, suddenly, it’s all about protecting the herd.
And let’s not forget that Whitman...
Well, I’d hate to let the lounge down after such a grand introduction. I’ll be sure to write up a detailed review—perhaps with a lit review and some footnotes so we can really lean into the symposium vibe. But, hey, at least we’ve established that discussing cultural meaning in a forum dedicated...
Well, I wouldn’t want to make Fitzgerald boring, but if he were here, I suspect he’d recognize the irony in dismissing an argument outright while admitting you haven’t actually engaged with it. If engaging with literature and its relevance to discussions like this makes Gatsby "boring," I’d...
The assumption that designing and overseeing production somehow disqualifies someone from being considered an artisan is a fundamental misunderstanding of how craftsmanship works. The history of heritage brands—especially those often celebrated in this forum—is filled with examples of designers...
A statement like this doesn’t just dismiss Master Supply Co.—it dismisses the very idea of firsthand evaluation. It asserts that expertise is not about engaging with a product but about the ability to judge it from a distance, as if experience is not a tool for deeper assessment but a shortcut...
Lol—yeah, about the length of my posts--I hear that a lot. I started out as an English professor, and I’ve always been interested in discussions of craft and heritage. I appreciate the depth of conversation in Fedora threads, especially when they bring in film, literature, and history. It’s a...
I anticipated these responses in my longer initial draft of my post (which I had to shorten to meet the character limit). And as expected, rather than engaging with the substance of my argument, the response pivots to a familiar rhetorical move: using an image of workers at sewing machines to...
Yes to the chore jacket--also part of the appeal. I was looking at the Rogue Territory waxed canvas supply jacket, but I preferred the idea the of leather--especially in veg tan. Also, the fit seems as though it will work better for me. I totally see what you mean about the pockets. I tend to...
I came to this thread seeking meaningful insight into a leather jacket brand. As someone who values craftsmanship and thoughtful critique, I expected to find a discussion that would help me make an informed decision about Master Supply Co. Instead, I found a conversation that made me question...
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