Thread can now be closed. I was successfully able to get the jacket back. Contacted a lawyer working in Thessaloniki and after she made contact, Theodoros agreed to ship me the jacket back. No changes were done to it.
I want to thank all the members who followed this, commented, and offered...
For Sale: Thedi Cossack Flying Jacket
Size: (something about equivalent to) 44
Measurements: Chest-23.5 in (p2p); Shoulder-19 in; Sweep-22 in; Back L-25 in; Front L-26-26.5; Sleeve L-25-25.25 in
Please excuse a little variance in the measurements--I didn't want to pull the tape too tightly...
Guys I don't know if it's possible to return the jacket. OP hasn't even asked, and should ask. That was the first thing I said. 'Send the jacket back while you can' because you definitely can't if you spray it with water and stretch it.
Nor did I ever say a bad word about Thurston. Someone...
In most places, if you take a standard thing, then customise it, or, somehow modify it from original, you can't return it.
Now consider a product which has no standard form. Which is only m2m. Whose spec is little more than a picture of a model. You supply colour, thread, measurements, etc...
Well, there's a difference between making a great product and running a successful business. Not the same.
The whole thread is happening because OP noticed something undesirable about the jacket. That means there is something wrong with it. Thedi disagrees, as you might expect him to do. The...
You're right. I never read Thurston's T&C. I guess I just assume it is like in most places that consumers have some rights.
Whether there is something wrong with the jacket is debatable. There is a very clear differentiation between what OP wanted and what he received. Is this expected or not...
There are people who have gotten great jackets. A few people haven't.
Most people are not riders nor are these jackets advertised as such. I doubt OP was thinking of his jacket that way.
Point is if this is the kind of hassle or required knowledge to access such a jacket.
Again I have to...
If you do this and you're right, you're right
If you do it and you're wrong, you have a garment you can't return because you deformed it.
That jacket will never fit OP the way it was imagined to fit, as in the way someone else shared a pic. This is bottom line.
What you're saying is unreasonable. It's mad.
Imagine yourself in this scenario. You see a picture on the website. You give measurements... how would you possibly know it isn't the right back for your usecase/desire?
There is no intimation OP got it wrong. But at same time no option for OP...
I didn't actually read any of Thurstons policies. I only felt like intervening because nobody else stepped in to help OP deal with OP receiving a jacket and not liking it and hearing nothing useful.
Just FYI... no one said OP measured wrong.
Like what is it exactly to order M2M?
Well first, is there anyone besides me saying to send the jacket back? Because I don't see this, nor that it isn't possible.
He/s,,he has a contract with Thurston, not Thedi, as it stands.
The maker told OP it was his own fault for ordering the wrong jacket. Like don't order a jacket with that...
I have to say this crazy stuff... Like don't spray your jacket with water to try to fix a problem with how it fits...
These are M2M jackets at premium price.
Send that jacket back while you can.
The idea that it's your fault for not knowing the jacket had a straight back, and not the right back, is nonsense.
Do not stretch it. You will not stretch a garment into what it should have been all along.
Else you will have a jacket that doesn't fit and...
I don't have Insta--I just can see the posts. I could call, I guess. Maybe I should try that--it's international so I will have to see if it can be done via voip using wifi. Or else I will have to buy some international minutes for it. Good thought.
I could ask for the jacket to be sent back, as is. I would just then be out of pocket for the money I spent to ship the jacket to him in Greece from Ireland in Feb 2023. Plus all the time and worry over it.
I would probably sell the jacket immediately, and I'm sure for at least some loss.
So...
Hey. Still no contact or reply to any of my mails. And no jacket.
Thedi launched a D-pocket jacket back in Feb, and as I wrote the last update here, I had proposed to him an option that we might leave the Cossack behind and do this jacket instead. I thought maybe it would make it easier to...
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