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The BORSALINO BROTHERHOOD

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We didn't dive deep enough into the modern Borsalinos and maybe we should have. Looking more closely you make a good case that there are modern labels that seem to refer to a date, whereas others don't. I looked at all the labels of modern Borsalinos I kept a picture of and this is what I found. No need to post the pictures of the modern dot matrix labels with the six numbers on them again. Nothing on those points towards a production year. well nothing obvious at least.
My theory is that these were in use from 1984 until 1993. I think it must have been 1984, because this was a watershed year for Borsalino after the death of Teresio Usuelli in 1983, who had led the company (after the death of Teresio Borsalino in 1939) until 1979. The factory moved in 1984 to a different location and left the original location in the centre of Alessandria.
On to the others. These are ten of the ones I found.

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All of the first two numbers before the letter A or P of these range between 94 and 13 (which was the latest I found). For a moment I thought the P could be referring to "Paglia" (straw) because I found it on that one, but it is on felts as well. All of them have a six digit number after the first to numbers and the letter, same as before.
Unfortunately none of these have any other date on them or came with a receipt that could confirm the theory. Maybe others here have ones that are dated; we'll have to see.
For now it seems plausible but not yet confirmed that for these labels the first two numbers do refer to the production year. I'd call that a result.
 

RickP

One Too Many
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This one unfortunately came in an envelope! No lasting damage, but it will take a few steamings to get it where I want it.
Borsalino Ludosca in Ghiaccio colour. Size 57 with the bound brim at 7cm and the crown at 10,5cm at the center dent. Dark grey thin ribbon, which for some reason was missing its bow. I added that on in a little piece of black ribbon I had on hand. If you look closely you can spot the slight difference.
Very soft felt with a great hand. Lightweight too at 87 grams. I like the way it creases, which it does every time you handle it. Ludosca is a model name we have not seen before. Very satisfying when a new one turns up.

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I REALLY dislike envelope shippers! Had a few of those come in here too lol
 
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This was (and still is) in a bit of a condition. I did have a go at cleaning and steaming it, but it still needs work. With some moth damage it's a beater anyway, bit nice enough to bring it back.

Borsalino Feather in a grey colour called Lupo (wolf). Size 58 (but curiously enough it fits me) with the overwelt brim at 6cm and the center dent at 10cm. They were not kidding when calling it feather, because it is indeed very lightweight at only 67 grams. Sweatband is grosgrain ribbon with the liner sewn onto it. All reducing weight.

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This one just in. 1954 - 1960 if I interpret the clues correctly. Been living in an attic for too long.

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What sort of not-so-fresh hell is this? (Not shown in the auction pics)

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It’s starting to come around.

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It’s a little loose, but I might just pad the sweat and keep it as an “everyday “ hat. The second bidder didn’t want to go past $10 so I’m not into it for much.

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This one just in. 1954 - 1960 if I interpret the clues correctly. Been living in an attic for too long.

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What sort of not-so-fresh hell is this? (Not shown in the auction pics)

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It’s starting to come around.

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It’s a little loose, but I might just pad the sweat and keep it as an “everyday “ hat. The second bidder didn’t want to go past $10 so I’m not into it for much.

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Certainlly worth saving, Bob. Didn't know they made them that large. The model name should be Ta Ludora, based on the model number.
 

Pellie

One Too Many
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This one just in. 1954 - 1960 if I interpret the clues correctly. Been living in an attic for too long.

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What sort of not-so-fresh hell is this? (Not shown in the auction pics)

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It’s starting to come around.

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It’s a little loose, but I might just pad the sweat and keep it as an “everyday “ hat. The second bidder didn’t want to go past $10 so I’m not into it for much.

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Nice. Do you leave it that way (open crown)? Or are you going to shape it?
 

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