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I knew you would respond to thatElectric car proponents never talk about that stuff.
I knew you would respond to thatElectric car proponents never talk about that stuff.
Allegedly......if they ever work out the production bugs.....the jury is still out on whether they are a legit car company or a tech play
I actually just did an eye roll after reading this. Apple, eh? Oh good. [emoji19]Well, the cars themselves certainly seem "legit."
Rumor is that Apple is looking into the automobile biz.
There are definitely people out there who seem to conveniently ignore the reports that state the production of a single electric car--from mining the necessary materials to disposing of the non-recyclable materials after they've outlived their usefulness--creates far more pollution than a combustion engine vehicle will in 10 years of being driven daily. It tends to make them sound like extremist conspiracy theorists. "But we're saving the planet!" No you aren't; you're trying to save your current way of life on the planet. The planet was here long before we showed up like a vermin infestation, and it'll probably be here in one form or another long after we're gone. Humans, on the other hand...Electric car proponents never talk about that stuff.
Winner winner, chicken dinner [emoji14]There are definitely people out there who seem to conveniently ignore the reports that state the production of a single electric car--from mining the necessary materials to disposing of the non-recyclable materials after they've outlived their usefulness--creates far more pollution than a combustion engine vehicle will in 10 years of being driven daily. It tends to make them sound like extremist conspiracy theorists. "But we're saving the planet!" No you aren't; you're trying to save your current way of life on the planet. The planet was here long before we showed up like a vermin infestation, and it'll probably be here in one form or another long after we're gone. Humans, on the other hand...
Electric car proponents never talk about that stuff.
Which will be reflected in everyones energy bills [emoji20]My question going back decades is how the electricity to charge the batteries would be generated. If by burning coal, well, that's hardly green of us. But if by solar or wind generation? Whole nuther matter.
Whatever its source, powering by electricity the majority of motor vehicles on the road in this country -- many, many millions of them --will take a whole lotta juice.
I actually just did an eye roll after reading this. Apple, eh? Oh good. [emoji19]
Dont get me wrong, I am all for alternative fuels, I just have a hard time seeing how electricity (other than solar or wind or what have you) is the right answer.Why?
My aim here isn't to prevail in some dispute over the future of transportation. But there's little denying that electric cars are becoming more and more common, and realistic indications are that the trend will continue. It does no good to dismiss the challenges that presents, because it certainly isn't all to the good.
I'm not "conveniently disregarding" those potential downsides. But I detect some here almost cavalierly dismissing the great benefit of this emerging technology.
Which will be reflected in everyones energy bills [emoji20]
Provided you aren't generating your own, on your rooftop.
Although I'll admit to being rubbed the wrong way by the "free" electric car charging stations I see popping up in parking garages. Yeah, "free" to the owner of the car being charged, who, in all likelihood, is at least fairly well-to-do, considering that he or she owns a late-model electric car. But the schmos paying to park their 15-year-old gas-burning beaters in the garage are subsidizing that "free" electricity.
Try 47 year old gas burning beater
I drive the snot out of that thing. I do always worry about some clown rear ending me, being in the area where I live, but I can't let that stop me from doing it. She hasn't been molested while sitting in parking lots and the such, but that's just because she looks a little rough (which is the way I like it). If its a super nice looking eye catcher, it attracts the wrong attention (in my opinion). No reason to have a sunny day driver. I like the look of, "the guy that owns that my beat my a$$ if I touch it", kind of thing. Its in good shape, but not good enough to attract unwanted attention, if you know what I mean.You talkin' that Mustang Mach 1?
Is that your daily driver?
Among my reservations in acquiring another "interesting" car is fearing what might happen to it out there on those mean streets.
This is apparently a common concern among collectible car owners, judging by when those old chariots are most likely to be sighted in their natural habitat, which is sunny Sunday afternoons, when traffic is light and visibility is good and those other motorists are least likely to be inebriated (provided they went easy on the Communion wine).
The key phrase in your statement is "emerging technology". I don't have any problems with the concept of alternate fuel vehicles, but the technology just isn't there yet for them to become a feasible replacement for what most of us have now. Stupid example: Right now I could jump in my truck with a full tank of gas and drive to Las Vegas, a trip of roughly 260 miles, without stopping for gas. Based on personal experience, that trip would take about six hours, give or take. But if I had an average modern electric car with a range of barely over 100 miles, during that same trip I'd have to stop twice and wait anywhere from 30 minutes to 12 hours for the batteries to recharge. Worst case scenario, I'm adding a full day to a six-hour trip. I don't call that feasible or practical. Granted, there are hybrid vehicles out there that could make the trip, but the average price for one is at least $10,000 more than what it would cost if I had to replace my truck right now with the newest model. I don't know about you folks, but I don't have that kind of spare cash laying around. Surely there will come a time when the technology and the cost will be comparable, but I don't know if that will be within my lifetime....I'm not "conveniently disregarding" those potential downsides. But I detect some here almost cavalierly dismissing the great benefit of this emerging technology.
Apple? I would have thought that Orange would have been easier on the juice.Rumor is that Apple is looking into the automobile biz.
Rumor is that Apple is looking into the automobile biz.
The key phrase in your statement is "emerging technology". I don't have any problems with the concept of alternate fuel vehicles, but the technology just isn't there yet for them to become a feasible replacement for what most of us have now. Stupid example: Right now I could jump in my truck with a full tank of gas and drive to Las Vegas, a trip of roughly 260 miles, without stopping for gas. Based on personal experience, that trip would take about six hours, give or take. But if I had an average modern electric car with a range of barely over 100 miles, during that same trip I'd have to stop twice and wait anywhere from 30 minutes to 12 hours for the batteries to recharge. Worst case scenario, I'm adding a full day to a six-hour trip. I don't call that feasible or practical. Granted, there are hybrid vehicles out there that could make the trip, but the average price for one is at least $10,000 more than what it would cost if I had to replace my truck right now with the newest model. I don't know about you folks, but I don't have that kind of spare cash laying around. Surely there will come a time when the technology and the cost will be comparable, but I don't know if that will be within my lifetime.
Well, the cars themselves certainly seem "legit."
Rumor is that Apple is looking into the automobile biz.
Yep, Apple is indeed experimenting with electric, driverless cars. They will be programmable with the latest iPhones which will no doubt have to be upgraded every year & you'll have to have it serviced & repaired in iCar garages. 2019 should see the first prototypes hit the roads & Apple has promised to try to keep pedestrian casualties to a minimum.