Utterly disappointing...

[Jovan]

It seems the fit differences between a $400 suit and a $4000 one are little to none these days.

Recently, when I picked up someone at the Tampa International Airport, we spent some time at the mall there. There was a Neiman Marcus, so naturally I went inside. What awaited me was beyond horror. Horrid patterns and fabrics that feel like they could tear apart just from one tug. Armholes that only came in big, bigger, and biggest. I'm not even talking about Armani here, I'm talking about names like Zegna, Paul Smith of London, BRIONI.

Seeing as the Italian brands had "for Neiman Marcus" labels inside, I'm hoping they actually do make a better suit than that.

 

[Baron Kurtz]

strange, PS usually has smaller armholes . . . even for the US market.

That flimsy cloth is strangely expensive stuff! (honestly, it is.)

bk

 

[Baron Kurtz]

There's no point trying it on. You can have as expensive cloth as you want. If it's cut like a sack, all the expense in the world won't stop it looking/feeling like a sack.

And though the cloth is expensive, it ain't likely to be that expensive ($4000 for a suit!, what a joke, go bespoke!)

bk

 

[Jovan]

Exactly... I can't see how they get off charging so much for something that feels like it's suited for pajamas rather than a suit.

 

[Baron Kurtz]

People, sadly, are stupid/ill informed enough to pay whatever they ask: if it's expensive, it must be good right??

When someone is buying something just to show how expensive it was, they'll buy anything, at any price.

bk

 

[Jay]

Perhaps, by this point in time, no one has been around long enough to know what a good suit should feel like/look like/fit. I suppose we could all go door-to-door and show people?

 

[jamespowers]

Perhaps, by this point in time, no one has been around long enough to know what a good suit should feel like/look like/fit. I suppose we could all go door-to-door and show people?

I nominate you to head the project.
There really are decent tailors out there who actually do know how a suit should fit. You just have to find them and hold them to the highest standard.
For four grand, I could have at least three suits made of any fabric/style I choose. [huh] I am sure that should fit better than any off the rack generic fitting suit.

Regards,

J

 

[Baron Kurtz]

You can lead a horse to water,
unfortunately it is rather more difficult
to convince him to sup of the nectar.

bk

 

[jamespowers]

You can lead a horse to water,
unfortunately it is rather more difficult
to convince him to sup of the nectar.

bk

lol lol lol lol lol lol
This applies to many areas of discussion.

 

[Jovan]

Okay, they didn't quite cost four grand, that was merely for stating my point. Still... at the prices they were I can think of a tailor or two I'd much rather go to for about the same or more.

 

[Undertow]

What do you guys suppose a typical bespkoe suit would cost? Worsted wool, SB 3 button, notch lapels, nothing fancy, just standard.

 

[Matt Deckard]

Cloths are flimsy. Fit is awkward and value for the dollar is found at Target.

I had a thread about this, went on about luxury versus quality -- they are not synonymous.

 

[cookie]

Bespoke vs RTW

There's no point trying it on. You can have as expensive cloth as you want. If it's cut like a sack, all the expense in the world won't stop it looking/feeling like a sack.

And though the cloth is expensive, it ain't likely to be that expensive ($4000 for a suit!, what a joke, go bespoke!)

bk

My tailor was talking to me about a Brioni suit I jagged for the right price . I asked him how much a Brioni was to buy. His knowledgeable 20 something son who works with him said AUD5K.

My immediate reaction was why not go bespoke?

He said it is the label and time poor thing of the 2000s. They want it - they want it now!

 

[cookie]

You can lead a horse to water,
unfortunately it is rather more difficult
to convince him to sup of the nectar.

bk

Is that what they call a mixed metaphor??? lol

 

[Baron Kurtz]

What do you guys suppose a typical bespkoe suit would cost? Worsted wool, SB 3 button, notch lapels, nothing fancy, just standard.

An typical bespoke suit? hmmm. I'm not sure. I was quoted $1,000 in Indiana. This was probably fair and would allow me to chose my own fabric etc.

Frankly, $4000 is taking the piss for OTR/RTW.

bk

 

[The Wingnut]

Having copious amounts of money is not synonymous with having good taste.

 

[Baron Kurtz]

Is that what they call a mixed metaphor??? lol

Mix a metaphor with some scotch and whaddaya get?

bk

answer: a bad mixed mataphor.

 

[Shaul-Ike Cohen]

Mix a metaphor with some scotch and whaddaya get?

Shouldn't Scotch be capitalised when referring to a person?

 

[Jovan]

Having copious amounts of money is not synonymous with having good taste.

QFT. No truer is it with people I've known growing up -- and their parents.

 

[cookie]

Shouldn't Scotch be capitalised when referring to a person?

Pedant!!!