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MissMittens

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LOL!!! If I were still there, no one would blink an eye if I had an 18 yr old girlfriend, it's a normal part of the culture. Here, I'd be arrested, lol!

Curiously, the reverse isn't true......if a 30 yr old woman was dating an 18 yr old guy, everyone would be talking about it. I know this, because I've always gone the older route, lol! Oh yeah, when I was 18 I had a 28 yr old GF by the way :lol:
 

rue

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I think Doc Hollywood was a great movie. It gives a pretty good sense of what it's like out here from a California perspective. Especially when living in the south.

[video=youtube;uPUPQwxe9dk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPUPQwxe9dk[/video]
 
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MissMittens

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I think Doc Hollywood was a great movie. It gives a pretty good sense of what it's like out here from a California perspective. Especially when living in the south.

[video=youtube;uPUPQwxe9dk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPUPQwxe9dk[/video]

I admit I liked that movie. Didn't think the girl was right for it though. Love the crotchety old doc and the pig
 

LizzieMaine

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I have a real problem with most "modern" silent film music. The proper way to present silent films is to keep the emphasis *on* the film, and musical scores that call undue attention to their "cleverness" or their "virtuosity" or, gawd help us, their "irony" are irritating at best and insulting to the film at worst.
 

Feraud

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Funny you should mention modern silent film music LizzieM. Just last night I started watching Spies (Fritz Lang, 1928) and found the music a bit over the top. This wasn't the first silent film where I've noticed it. Quite a few updated film scores tend to distract from the film.
Once I notice the music I forget the movie and start wondering what the original score sounded like!
 

LizzieMaine

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Exactly. If you go to a show and you notice the group providing the music is billed above the title of the movie, chances are you're not going to see the film at its best.

These guys, on the other hand, do it right. I've projected for several of their shows over the past few years, and they bring the films to life just as their creators intended.
 

Doctor Strange

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I've always run silent films with Scott Joplin rags (mostly the Joshua Rifkin performances), Louis Armstrong Hot Fives/Sevens, twenties Paul Whiteman recordings, etc. I have found that eventually the illusion arises that the music matches the action perfectly. (As an experiment, I tried using the Rolling Stones too: the same thing happened.) This way, there's excellent music, but it very much secondary to the visuals.

Which is not to say that I have anything against original instrumental scores, expert organists, or ensembles that specialize in accompanying silent films. Some are excellent. But if the films are good, they can really stand on their own with just generic period music.
 
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Whenever I look for silent films on DVD or even VHS I always look for ones with a Carl Davis soundtrack. He was, by far, the best composer of silent film scores.

[video=youtube;ZC_otpD8F_o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC_otpD8F_o[/video]

[video=youtube;G6MJUuKXAgk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6MJUuKXAgk[/video]
 
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Wally_Hood

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Whenever I look for silent films on DVD or even VHS I always look for ones with a Carl Davis soundtrack. He was, by far, the best composer of silent film scores.

[video=youtube;ZC_otpD8F_o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC_otpD8F_o[/video]

[video=youtube;G6MJUuKXAgk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6MJUuKXAgk[/video]

Yes, Carl Davis, who composed the score for Kevin Brownlow's Hollywood documentary, as yet unavailable on dvd. Davis' music shows up from time to time and his work is outstanding.
 

Edward

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Juliet was 13 (the nurse said she was "not fourteen") and Romeo's age was never mentioned, but it was believed that he was much older, at least of adult age.

Ah, yes - that was it. When I studied it, the prevailing wisdom of the time was that Romeo was a few years older, but not much more than sixteen or seventeen (I suppose much older and he might have been married already), but yes your'e right, it's not actually mentioned. Chances are that in performance he was played by someone a bit older too.

That is the main reason I have theorized that Romeo and Juliet is actually a satire, not a tragedy. That and the first scene is Romeo ready to die because Rosaline is ignoring him, which he promptly forgets about when he sees his new object of infatuation. How am I supposed to take him seriously like that?

I don't know I'd go as far as satire, but yes, that's it exactly.

I'm not so sure that they wouldn't have been really in love. Life expectancy in the 16th century was 35 years of age. Juliet would have been basically considered as an adult and it was said in the play that she was of marrying age. Remember she was supposed to be engaged to Paris. She wouldn't have the same outlook a fourteen year old would have now as her life was almost half over.

Good point! Mayhaps I'm guilty here of imposing a retrospective interpretation on it, making me something of a hypcrite... Perhaps my biggest pet-hate in the theatre world is the Oedipal interpretation of Hamlet's relationship with Gertrude.

Oh I see..... well good job then :p lol

Unpopular movie opinion..... I think Cameron Diaz was better at modeling than she is at acting.

I'm sure she's a lovely person, but I'm not particularly a fan of either.
 

rue

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Good point! Mayhaps I'm guilty here of imposing a retrospective interpretation on it, making me something of a hypcrite... Perhaps my biggest pet-hate in the theatre world is the Oedipal interpretation of Hamlet's relationship with Gertrude.

I've heard that before, but I don't see the Oedipal complex in Hamlet either. He was just angry at her and with anger comes passion.
Anyway, as a woman I think I take Romeo and Juliet differently then I would as a man. He died for her and what could be more romantic then that? I think men would look at it like he was an idiot for killing himself over a woman. Although not in the same league obviously and sorry for the poor comparison, but the same can be said about the scene at the end of Titanic. Women gushed over Jacks sacrifice, but men rolled their eyes.
 

Mr Vim

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Rue mentioned the scene in Titanic where Jack dies, now I have always felt bad about this, but when Rose has to pull his hand off and she has trouble because it is frozen solid, I sort of laugh, out of some morbid sense of humor... I FELT BAD! I DID! But every time that scene makes me laugh a bit... It's like he's the one who really won't let go, even in death, which just seemed a bit to ironic for me to handle.

Caveat: this was written at five in the morning after a twelve hour shift.
 

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