"Unhappy Hipsters" Blog

[ButteMT61]

For the record, I don't know this POWERS guy, never spent any time with him, and am walking away as to avoid shrapnel... lol

 

[jamespowers]

For the record, I don't know this POWERS guy, never spent any time with him, and am walking away as to avoid shrapnel... lol

:rofl:

 

[Edward]

I had forgotten the discerning, yet passionate, HadleyH, and am regretting doing so!

Anyway, you might be right about the discog nonsense. With a lot of guys it gives a sense of ownership and mastery - especially if you collect things for the only he-man reason, which is completeness, cornering the market, bragging rights. The best thing about a performance is usually its rarity.

With some others, especially those into the 20s and 30s, it's an outgrowth of movie fanship, and its fascination with glamor and artifice. They'll peg every tune to a film or show, and from there, an actress or actor. You might call the 78 disc an "aide de Camp," with a capital C. The music? It's summed up with adjectives. Dreamy, divine, superb, sublime.

With me - a musician, unlike most collectors - it's the music, but not just. It might be metaphysical. (It might also be hooey.) I always slap a date on a cut, even an mp3 file. It gives context - something almost always missing in a great collection (mine's good, but won't ever be great). It reminds me that a record cut direct to wax isn't just an object, but a slice of real time. Nobody ever lived in the past, or sang or played music in the past. You can hear that on records as they were made then.

Andrew (ASWatland) and I once discussed this at a FL London meetup. Andrew turned to me and said "I think all men are slightly austistic when it comes to hobbies". I think he had a fair point.... it does for the most part seem to be a very male thing to obsess over the details I'm like that certainly, as many others. The minutiae. It does become important to remember the bigger picture sometimes, of course! I've always been into things where the tiny details are important - whether clothes, music, or wargaming. FWIW, I am told by a friend who has a family member with pronounced autism that the condition is virtually always found in men, so maybe it isn't necessarily a lazy gender stereotype at all to think of such obsessive behaviours as male. I believe OCD (or CDO, as it should be, with the letters in the right order) is more common in men too.

 

[sheeplady]

Consider it done. Sushi sounds good due to the heat. She thanks you!

No problem! I'm getting dinner brought to me tonight. Ah, the benefits of marriage.

Make sure you go down this checklist like I do every day:

lol As far as the "A wife always knows her place" my response would be "Yeah, and her place is number 1." If momma ain't happy, ain't nobody gonna be happy.

 

[jamespowers]

lol As far as the "A wife always knows her place" my response would be "Yeah, and her place is number 1." If momma ain't happy, ain't nobody gonna be happy.

:rofl: But number one is Have dinner ready.

 

[jlee562]

A friend snapped this today at the Outside Lands Music festival here in Golden Gate Park where the hipsters are undoubtedly excited to see Neil Young headline....

 

[vitanola]

Make sure you go down this checklist like I do every day:

Not that hoary fraud again![huh]

There was no such animal as "Housekeeping Monthly" magazine, and the "Advertising Archives" from whence the picutre came has only existed since 1990. As I recall the image was traced to some other magazine , and has been badly cropped.

The humorous piece better reflects what folks in the late 'Ninties or early 'Oughts thought of the position of a housewife in the 1950's.

I believe this has been addressed in another thread, and only bring this up here to prevent any casual reader form assuming that anyone herebelieves the above article to be anything but parody.

Or perhaps it is merely James Power's hipster irony.

Methinks the lady doth protest too much, what with all of the Hippie bashing.

I didn't much care for them in the seventies, those hippies, either, but never obsessed much about 'em, either.

Remember although I am not a quarrelsome man, I drive a Ford car, and so am always trying to start something.

Must be the timer loom again...

 

[LizzieMaine]

With some others, especially those into the 20s and 30s, it's an outgrowth of movie fanship, and its fascination with glamor and artifice. They'll peg every tune to a film or show, and from there, an actress or actor. You might call the 78 disc an "aide de Camp," with a capital C. The music? It's summed up with adjectives. Dreamy, divine, superb, sublime.

Where does that leave those of us who sincerely just *like the music?* No "camp," no "so bad it's good", no wink-wink-nudge-nudge, none of that repellent smirking irony that makes me reach for a sledgehammer. I *just like the music,* and I completely reject any cultural fad that insists it has to be "viewed thru the lens of whatever load of intellectual crackpottery" happens to be in fashion this season.

 

[ButteMT61]

Not that hoary fraud again![huh]There was no such animal as "Housekeeping Monthly" magazine, and the "Advertising Archives" from whence the picutre came has only existed since 1990. As I recall the image was traced to some other magazine , and has been badly cropped.The humorous piece better reflects what folks in the late 'Ninties or early 'Oughts thought of the position of a housewife in the 1950's...."

I do believe it was here for fun, not to make a historical claim on wifedom, vitanola.

 

[MissMittens]

I DON'T like Bing (never have, just find him a bit irritating) but I do love Mr Al Bowlly. Such a wonderful, soothing voice. So he is 'period' to my dress and style aesthetic but I still love cheesy 80s stuff too. So I'm def. not a hipster, but then I don't aspire to be!

Didn't Al Bowly do the theme for Goodnight Sweetheart? I think Bing was great, pre-war. Post-war, just crooning. I don't like crooners at all. Not a hipster here either

 

[Fletch]

Where does that leave those of us who sincerely just *like the music?*

In a certain place in my heart, if that's worth anything.

You know, I don't have a lot to go on besides YouTube comments these days, but I never did sense much smirking irony among the showtune fans. Many, I feel, are earnest in their love of the music, but they came to it thru Camp - which is, or at least was, subversive and liberating - and they express their love in Camp terms.

 

[LizzieMaine]

Didn't Al Bowly do the theme for Goodnight Sweetheart? I think Bing was great, pre-war. Post-war, just crooning. I don't like crooners at all. Not a hipster here either

The GS theme was done by an Al Bowlly impersonator by the name of Nick Curtis -- a very very good impersonation, too. Pretty much a note-for-note recreation of the original Bowlly-Ray Noble recording.

 

[Flicka]

I thought about this thread today when a coworker told me that her friend calls everything made before 1985 "40s music". Beatles? Yeah, '40s music. Black Sabbath? '40s music. And don't get me started on that darned '40s disco...

Andrew (ASWatland) and I once discussed this at a FL London meetup. Andrew turned to me and said "I think all men are slightly austistic when it comes to hobbies". I think he had a fair point.... it does for the most part seem to be a very male thing to obsess over the details I'm like that certainly, as many others. The minutiae. It does become important to remember the bigger picture sometimes, of course! I've always been into things where the tiny details are important - whether clothes, music, or wargaming. FWIW, I am told by a friend who has a family member with pronounced autism that the condition is virtually always found in me, so maybe it isn't necessarily a lazy gender stereotype at all to think of such obsessive behaviours as male. I believe OCD (or CDO, as it should be, with the letters in the right order) is more common in men too.

My sister told me that earlier this spring that she'd come across a list of new Swedish words from 2011 and one was the verb "tjejsamla". It means "girl-collecting" basically, and contrary to what I thought, it doesn't mean that you collect girls, but that you collect something but without being obsessed and geeky and OCD about it. Basically, to collect "like a girl".

A friend snapped this today at the Outside Lands Music festival here in Golden Gate Park where the hipsters are undoubtedly excited to see Neil Young headline....

Somehow that pic looks less like a hipster than someone who belongs in The Chap...

[video=youtube;5LUgTItlJQc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LUgTItlJQc&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsear ch_query%3Dbishop%2Bbrennan%2Brabbits%26oq%3Dbisho p%2Bbrennan%2Brabbits%26gs_l%3Dyoutube.3..0j0i5.15 76.5780.0.6063.22.18.0.4.4.1.227.1798.11j4j3.18.0. ..0.0...1ac.GMbmRl2hDMM&has_verified=1[/video]

Should I be grateful that this video Is Not Available For Viewers From My Country?

 

[vitanola]

I do believe it was here for fun, not to make a historical claim on wifedom, vitanola.

As was I.

I guess that my Ford joke was so antique that it fell quite flat. :eusa_doh:


Pardon me.

You really never heard the one about the guy who owned a second hand Ford? He didn't have a quarrelsome disposition, but he was forever trying to start something.

 

[Amy Jeanne]

Where does that leave those of us who sincerely just *like the music?* No "camp," no "so bad it's good", no wink-wink-nudge-nudge, none of that repellent smirking irony that makes me reach for a sledgehammer. I *just like the music,* and I completely reject any cultural fad that insists it has to be "viewed thru the lens of whatever load of intellectual crackpottery" happens to be in fashion this season.

This is me. Even though I like to know about the performers and I like to know discogs, I mostly collect music because I *like* it. I don't think it is "campy" in the slightest -- of course, unless it is meant to be that way Like "Let's All Be Fairies" or something similar. I feel the same way about movies.

 

[ButteMT61]

As was I.I guess that my Ford joke was so antique that it fell quite flat. :eusa_doh:

D@mn! You got me with the irony of it all... Yes, I got the joke (and I like it too), just wasn't sure of the closing tone

 

[sheeplady]

:rofl: But number one is Have dinner ready.

You mean have dinner ready for the wife, right?

 

[sheeplady]

Also, the whole discussion of what a good wife/ good husband should do reminds me of this:




*Please note, I don't condone the suggestion that this is because women are hormonal, it's because women are human beings. But I do agree you can't go wrong with suggesting wine.

 

[jamespowers]

Not that hoary fraud again![huh]

There was no such animal as "Housekeeping Monthly" magazine, and the "Advertising Archives" from whence the picutre came has only existed since 1990. As I recall the image was traced to some other magazine , and has been badly cropped.

The humorous piece better reflects what folks in the late 'Ninties or early 'Oughts thought of the position of a housewife in the 1950's.

I believe this has been addressed in another thread, and only bring this up here to prevent any casual reader form assuming that anyone herebelieves the above article to be anything but parody.

Or perhaps it is merely James Power's hipster irony.

Methinks the lady doth protest too much, what with all of the Hippie bashing.

I didn't much care for them in the seventies, those hippies, either, but never obsessed much about 'em, either.

Remember although I am not a quarrelsome man, I drive a Ford car, and so am always trying to start something.

Must be the timer loom again...

Uh, yeah, I know it is a fake. I have know for a long time. It is meant to be funny.
Grow a sense of humor man.

 

[jamespowers]

You mean have dinner ready for the wife, right?

:rofl: Uh no. Refer to the second to last item on the checklist.