The Stratoliner Appreciation Club {MODERN}

[Rmccamey]

Anyone have or know of a place to get new, old, or reproduction Stratoliner pins?

 

[M Hatman]

Anyone have or know of a place to get new, old, or reproduction Stratoliner pins?

Here is one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-19...HRqH:sc:USPSFirstClass!61068!US!-1:rk:21:pf:0
There is usually always one on the Bay at any given time. Sometimes even a proper Stratoliner (the plane) pin will show up, though the hats DID come with the DC-3's.................
M

 

[Rmccamey]

Thank you, sir. I'll take a look.

Here is one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-19...HRqH:sc:USPSFirstClass!61068!US!-1:rk:21:pf:0
There is usually always one on the Bay at any given time. Sometimes even a proper Stratoliner pin will show up, though the hats DID come with the DC-3's.................
M

 

[alanfgag]

Anyone have or know of a place to get new, old, or reproduction Stratoliner pins?

An ebay search for >vintage airplane pin< will generally catch some fish. You can collect them for all your Stratoliners and resell the extras in the FL classifieds.

 

[M Hatman]

I like to get an original pin for each of my modern Strats!!!
M

 

[Mustang Mike's Hats]

... did you find that you were pointing the crown pinch more toward the center of your face (above your nose) and away from your right eye? I find that with all store bought hats.

So which do you think is crooked .. The head, or the hat??

 

[Rockwater]

So, when you did the re-crease, did you find that you were pointing the crown pinch more toward the center of your face (above your nose) and away from your right eye? I find that with all store bought hats.

I only recall pushing it around and wishing there was more crown.
But, now that I look at the photo, it appears that may have been the case.
I assume that the head is the crooked one, not being machined.

 

[Zombie_61]

So, when you did the re-crease, did you find that you were pointing the crown pinch more toward the center of your face (above your nose) and away from your right eye? I find that with all store bought hats.

I have to crease my hats with the pinch about 1/4" towards my right eye if I want the pinch to line up with my nose; in my case my asymmetrical head and face are definitely to blame.

 

[DRB]

I have to crease my hats with the pinch about 1/4" towards my right eye if I want the pinch to line up with my nose; in my case my asymmetrical head and face are definitely to blame.

Wow, that's interesting. I don't think we are alone. I see it a lot here on the FL. I am just the opposite. I am going to post more discussion of this topic (leaving your name out for privacy) in the Ask a question thread. Check it out.

 

[DRB]

The open crown Stratoliners certainly have stiffeners added to the felt, but they do not have the same shellac as the Stratoliners with the factory creasing. Steam helps to hold the shaping on the open crown hats, but it never causes the felt to become stiff like the Royal Stratoliners. My open crown strats certainly “don’t have all the stiffeners added” when compared to the lower grade factory creased hats. I can’t speak about other’s hats, but this is true of the four I own.

I am thinking of purchasing a Stratoliner. Is there a difference in quality between the Amazon offering Versus the Ebay offering (other than a pre-shaped crease and stiffener)? One is a Premier and one is a Royal.

Royal:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005DF6AR4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Premier:
https://www.ebay.com/i/351715218537?chn=ps&var=621482488377

 

[jlee562]

I am thinking of purchasing a Stratoliner. Is there a difference in quality between the Amazon offering Versus the Ebay offering (other than a pre-shaped crease and stiffener)? One is a Premier and one is a Royal.

Royal:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005DF6AR4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Premier:
https://www.ebay.com/i/351715218537?chn=ps&var=621482488377

Yes, the Premier is Royal Deluxe quality, so in theory, slightly higher quality. What this actually means in the real world is a "trade secret." Whomever is running the Stetson Japan instagram seems to be under the impression that the Royal Deluxe is 10% beaver, but our local Hatco emissary @Jedwbpm could neither confirm nor deny this.

 

[M Hatman]

I am thinking of purchasing a Stratoliner. Is there a difference in quality between the Amazon offering Versus the Ebay offering (other than a pre-shaped crease and stiffener)? One is a Premier and one is a Royal.

Royal:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005DF6AR4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Premier:
https://www.ebay.com/i/351715218537?chn=ps&var=621482488377

Premier is also shipped open crown (meaning you can shape it any way you like) the royal is pre-creased (machine pressed in).............AND the Premier is a taller crown. The Royal is about just under 5" open crown where the Premier is 5 1/2". You can do a LOT MORE with that extra crown height.
Brim width is the same at 2 1/2" each all around....
M

 

[DRB]

So which do you think is crooked .. The head, or the hat??

Well, because it happens consistently, I will guess it is my head. Either that, or, America is being sold hats with crooked crowns (doubtful). It is a problem that is more prevalent than most people realize, IMO.

I don't buy straw hats that are pre-creased because of this. Guatemalan and Mexican Palm straws can be re-creased. I have not found any of the palm straws offered in a high quality thus far.

 

[DRB]

Premier is also shipped open crown (meaning you can shape it any way you like) the royal is pre-creased (machine pressed in).............AND the Premier is a taller crown. The Royal is about just under 5" open crown where the Premier is 5 1/2". You can do a LOT MORE with that extra crown height.
Brim width is the same at 2 1/2" each all around....
M

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Thanks! That is exactly the information I have been searching for. The Royal is just under 5" open and the Premier is 5.5"., but same quality. Thank you for your time and effort....Dennis

 

[deadlyhandsome]

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Thanks! That is exactly the information I have been searching for. The Royal is just under 5" open and the Premier is 5.5"., but same quality. Thank you for your time and effort....Dennis

There’s another member here who has speculated that the standard Royal felt is composed primarily of dryer lint. The Royal De Luxe Premier felt is thicker winter weight stuff but it’s also surprisingly good quality (my experience).


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[Frunobulax]

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Thanks! That is exactly the information I have been searching for. The Royal is just under 5" open and the Premier is 5.5"., but same quality. Thank you for your time and effort....Dennis

Not the same quality. Royal Deluxe is a quality level above Royal.

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[deadlyhandsome]

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Thanks! That is exactly the information I have been searching for. The Royal is just under 5" open and the Premier is 5.5"., but same quality. Thank you for your time and effort....Dennis

Fruno speaks the truth, definitely not the same quality. What you (I) really want is one of the discontinued Excellent quality Stratoliners.


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[DRB]

Fruno speaks the truth, definitely not the same quality. What you (I) really want is one of the discontinued Excellent quality Stratoliners.


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Thanks for your help gentlemen. Looks like it is a race to see who finds the UnObtainable Excellent quality Stratoliner in their size first.

 

[Zombie_61]

There’s another member here who has speculated that the standard Royal felt is composed primarily of dryer lint...

 

[Frunobulax]

Thanks for your help gentlemen. Looks like it is a race to see who finds the UnObtainable Excellent quality Stratoliner in their size first.

Check occasionally with the Garland outlet.

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