The BORSALINO BROTHERHOOD

[alanfgag]

Thanks... I wasn't able to open your attachments, but did (I think) see the hat photographed for auction. I have a mate to this and agree, it is a very nice velour felt.

 

[bond]

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[bond]

And interior missing onion skin of course but still has the Colombo stamp imprinted on Silk liner.

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[FedOregon]

Is it common in the older Borsalinos to also have the onion skin under the sweat, between the sweat and the felt of the hat? I have an old Wormser with onion skin like this and just wonder how common it is across hat companies, and across the pond.

 

[mayserwegener]

Yes it's common with Borsalinos. I am not sure when they started to use it. I know most of my examples are from the 1950s. Other Italian hat companies used it too. You also see it with German and Austrian hats. I believe my oldest German example (a Mayser) is from the early 1950s. I am sure it was used elsewhere in Europe but it would require some searching and the sample size here is lacking.

This Mayser is date stamped 1952.

http://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/3-mayser-hutfabrik/page-3#entry482

 

[FedOregon]

Thanks very much for the information, Steve. What a beautiful example!

 

[carouselvic]

Is it common in the older Borsalinos to also have the onion skin under the sweat, between the sweat and the felt of the hat? I have an old Wormser with onion skin like this and just wonder how common it is across hat companies, and across the pond.

I don't think I've ever seen one on a Borsalino hat. As for other companies, Stetson was using sweat resistors in the mid 30's, but it was not "onion skin".

 

[alanfgag]

This Borsalino "Lontra" (otter) has a thin layer between the sweatband and the crown. What material this was originally is hard to say - it has partially disintegrated into the liner, leaving a fine open weave silk-like layer. This hat was never worn. It arrived rolled just as it was shipped from Roma.

 

[besdor]

Ive never seen a Borsalino hat made from otter. They dont make them like that anymore!

 

[Redfokker]

Ive never seen a Borsalino hat made from otter. They dont make them like that anymore!

I thought they were all made from Unicorn fur!

 

[FedOregon]

In my limited experience, they're made from unobtainium.

 

[Redfokker]

In my limited experience, they're made from unobtainium.

You got that right!

 

[RJR]

You got that right!

+1

 

[alanfgag]

Ive never seen a Borsalino hat made from otter. They dont make them like that anymore!

I had thought that "lontra" was a style name, like "visone" (mink)... but perhaps they does have content significance... like "castoro" (beaver)?

 

[besdor]

I know Borsalino has used mink, beaver, nutria ,deerfelt and guanaco but not otter .

 

[belfastboy]

I know Borsalino has used mink, beaver, nutria ,deerfelt and guanaco but not otter .

Otters are too cute!

 

[carouselvic]

Dinerman had a Borsalino hat made of pine marten.

 

[Tonio]

Dinerman had a Borsalino hat made of pine marten.

 

[FedOregon]

New Borsalino from a young man in my Sunday School class and Scout troop (The Duct Tape Patrol!). He told me it was his great grandfathers' hat. I know it's not that old, pre-80's with a stitched in liner, but I went to the boy's father to make sure he knew about the gift. He corrected his son, saying it was his Aunt's hat and she didn't want it anymore. So, I graciously accepted. No way was I going to accept what could be considered a family heirloom; the grandfather's hat. I would dearly love to have one of my grandfather's hats.

Under the sweat I see:

04283
GIUNLINA

76-88106
7 1/2

On the opposite side under the sweat:

Velour 7 1/2 $45.---
Camel ( and a scribbled mark over the top of the brim size... which I think says 1-7/8)

It looks like a "traveler" style hat. Indeed, Aunt Barb used it as such for hiking, etc. But it's made of nice, soft velour. The color isn't the usual I see for Camel. It's almost a darker deli-mustard color to my eyes. I thought it would go well with the rust colored J Crew shirt I got for Christmas about 12 years ago.

 

[RJR]

New Borsalino from a young man in my Sunday School class and Scout troop (The Duct Tape Patrol!). He told me it was his great grandfathers' hat. I know it's not that old, pre-80's with a stitched in liner, but I went to the boy's father to make sure he knew about the gift. He corrected his son, saying it was his Aunt's hat and she didn't want it anymore. So, I graciously accepted. No way was I going to accept what could be considered a family heirloom; the grandfather's hat. I would dearly love to have one of my grandfather's hats.

Under the sweat I see:

04283
GIUNLINA

76-88106
7 1/2

On the opposite side under the sweat:

Velour 7 1/2 $45.---
Camel ( and a scribbled mark over the top of the brim size... which I think says 1-7/8)

It looks like a "traveler" style hat. Indeed, Aunt Barb used it as such for hiking, etc. But it's made of nice, soft velour. The color isn't the usual I see for Camel. It's almost a darker deli-mustard color to my eyes. I thought it would go well with the rust colored J Crew shirt I got for Christmas about 12 years ago.

Unique,nice acquisition.