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Suits in the news

L.A. always believes it's leading the trends.

There's an article in The Guardian today about the return of high waisted trousers. Don't ask me how Alexis Petridis - typically a music cricket - is qualified to talk about male fashion. Somone who believes that WWII and the bombing of London (even allowing him the artistic use of time) inaugurated high waisted trousers really should his sartorial mouth shut but there it is:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,,1943241,00.html

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herringbonekid

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you see some high waists among the high fashion catwalk collections with some regularity; people such as Gaultier or Galliano if they're referencing the 30s and feeling a bit daffy. but i am far from convinced they will ever return to the high street. i think we've gone too far the other way. to the average male high waisted trousers represent the very opposite of 'cool'.
 

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Baron Kurtz said:
There's an article in The Guardian today about the return of high waisted trousers. Don't ask me how Alexis Petridis - typically a music cricket - is qualified to talk about male fashion.
Working the gay desk this weekend?

DISCLAIMER! No, of course you don't have to "like men" – or even be one – to write about their clothing. But the few pros doing it at mags/papers do seem to fall into the stereotype (maybe because other guys are afraid of being branded with it).
 

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Fletch said:
Working the gay desk this weekend?

DISCLAIMER! No, of course you don't have to "like men" – or even be one – to write about their clothing. But the few pros doing it at mags/papers do seem to fall into the stereotype (maybe because other guys are afraid of being branded with it).

Petridis took over from the last menswear columnist (whose name I've already forgotten) a few weeks ago and writes each week about mens clothing. The last guy seemed to "fall into the sterotype" and had worked in fashion journalism before, so at least wrote about the clothes. Petridis just stumbles along with seemingly no interest in clothes at all - they are peripheral to whatever he feels like talking about.
 

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The suit makes the man..or is it the almighty dollar?

pshaw, humbug, etc., etc. This is not Style it is merely fashion, a big difference in my book.


"All of a sudden, wearing a suit has become a cool, high-fashion thing," said Marshal Cohen, chief analyst for the NPD Group, a market research firm based in Port Washington, N.Y. In consumer surveys, Cohen has found that young men who may never have worn a suit — or even seen their fathers wear one — have discovered the luxury, sex appeal and authority of wearing something with more than two seams.
These same talking heads who are helping the fashion designers sell this year's "look" will be telling everyone the suit is dead next Spring.

At least someone said-
"A well-tailored suit can make you look handsome, whatever your body type is," said Silver, a fashion trendsetter who has given up jeans. "Denim is a lazy man's way to dress.

"You can't be a teenager your entire life."
Thank you!!
 

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herringbonekid said:
check out the video here called 'how to buy a suit' :

http://men.style.com/gq

advice "you don't wear your trousers at your navel. you're not in a 1940s movie"


Proper length: You should be able to cup your hands under the jacket. :eusa_doh:


No ventless jackets, Ever! :eek:
 
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Los Angeles = provincial

Los Angeles and the Hollywood connection tends to create a lot of "legend in their own mind" type of self importance, self promotion and self agrandisement.

LA Westsiders believe that anything East of Pasadena is like the backwoods folks from the movie Deliverance. Dueling Banjos and all.

It happens to cities, they become self centered and then begin to believe their own hype, and then it happens not only are they the center of the universe but the place where everything of importance supposedly starts and emminates from. Next is self delusional.

LA rarely leads in fashion although it can become a distillate for fashion ideas, it tends to cater to fads over fashion and only rarely has true style.

The article is LA at its most pretentious.
 
Salv said:
Petridis took over from the last menswear columnist (whose name I've already forgotten) a few weeks ago and writes each week about mens clothing. The last guy seemed to "fall into the sterotype" and had worked in fashion journalism before, so at least wrote about the clothes. Petridis just stumbles along with seemingly no interest in clothes at all - they are peripheral to whatever he feels like talking about.

Though i can see where he's coming from; Cramming himself into those ultra-tight jeans to get by with the music-scene types. Still, this is a tenuous attachment to fashion. I've noticed it alot with The Grauniad. They tend to stick with people who don't really know anything because they have name recognition. That paper really has gone down the pan.

As for the "information" in that L.A. article ... :rolleyes:

"Though fashion industry insiders often credit Hedi Slimane, the Paris-based designer of Christian Dior Homme, with putting tailored clothing back on the map with his dark, knife-sharp suits, Kalenderian credits the L.A. lifestyle for making that kind of clothing valid."

Hahahahaha. Doesn't this mean that what they're saying is *by their own admission* a big pile of , well, you know. So, as i thought, Paris is in fact leading the way.

bk
 
They tend to stick with people who don't really know anything because they have name recognition.

Well, get this one. We have a major mag here in New York that's about shopping/events/entertainment in the city. My name got passed on to them for an article they wanted to have written about buying vintage men's suits, and it got back to me that they passed on me because they wanted 'a layman's point of view'.

Egads, I am a layman! I just happen to know more about it than the professionals. Here I've been vintage shopping in NY for a quarter-century and that's exactly the sort of experience THEY DON'T WANT!!!


Regards,

Senator Jack
 

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Baron Kurtz said:
"Though fashion industry insiders often credit Hedi Slimane, the Paris-based designer of Christian Dior Homme, with putting tailored clothing back on the map with his dark, knife-sharp suits, Kalenderian credits the L.A. lifestyle for making that kind of clothing valid."


bk

Has anyone noticed that almost every politician from the President to Congressmen to Governors to Mayors wear a dark, almost black SB suit and a single color tie? No greys, blues, browns, nothing. Does this bother anyone else as much as me? They all look exactly alike! There's absolutely no variety or style.
 
The Brit poiticos have a bit of leeway in the choice of ties, but yes, they wear dark 3 button SB suits. Some of the Tories wear 3 piece suits, a couple favour the DB, but not many. They have done market testing and have found that the public prefers the more austere look for their elected representatives. Look at Disraeli. He dropped his dandyism like a hot brick when he realised he couldn't get no respect in the House.

Tony Blair - in one of his somewhat misguided "connect wif da yoof" moments - once wore a plum-coloured Gucci suit, and was roundly critisised in the press (esp. tabloids: "oooh, look at the fairy Blairy"). He has never dared to do so since.

When the speaker was recently ill, the Deputy speaker took over. Man, he had some sharp 3 piece suits on. Rich blue pin- and chalk-stripe numbers. Looked, and sounded, old money Savile Row. A welcome change. (never thought i'd hear myself saying that!)

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When I want advice on style (not 'fashion') and suits

I'll come right here to the Fedora Lounge and take my cues from you good gentlemen here, thank you very much. These half-baked fashion critics do more harm than good. Pity anyone who bothers to listen to their rubbish. (Not that most the male population cares anyway, I'd say).
 

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