Oldsarge
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And who's looking over your shoulder. I always shoot better with a coach . . .
I am 6'2", a solid 240, been shooting for 40+ years and there is no way I would shoot a scandium 44 recreationally. I have a 44 mag S&W with a 3" barrel and Hogue grips and the recoil is not bad at all. However, that same gun with the scandium frame is a monster. If I were backpacking in bear country I would prefer to carry the scandium frame but they are definitly not every day shooters of for a newbie.
Picked up a pre 1947 M&P snubnose today. I love these old K-frame Snubys.
I am 6'2", a solid 240, been shooting for 40+ years and there is no way I would shoot a scandium 44 recreationally. I have a 44 mag S&W with a 3" barrel and Hogue grips and the recoil is not bad at all. However, that same gun with the scandium frame is a monster. If I were backpacking in bear country I would prefer to carry the scandium frame but they are definitly not every day shooters of for a newbie.
No handgun will deliver a reliable ONE SHOT kill against a Grizzly Bear, regardless of caliber. The minimum I would consider for use against black bear would be a .357 Magnum with a 148 grain semi-jacketed soft point bullet, and at that I would expect to need three shots to stop (or seriously slow down) a bear. Even a .44 Magnum loaded with soft nose bullets would still be less than optimal, but probably better than a .357 Magnum. For bear, especially Grizzly, I'd recommend a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with slugs as probably the most effective choice. But even at that, I wouldn't expect any one shot stops.As I happen to live in bear country :eeek:,....does anyone have recommendations as to a good bear defense gun? .357 or .44 magnum??,.or perhaps .45 or .50?,...I'm talking monster 600 lb. + grizzly bears here, and ONE shot.
Hmm,..my late uncle lived in Alaska, and he told me that everyone there carried a .357 when out and about, in case of grizzlies. Black bears are not as bad, and generally not as aggressive. One shot to the heart and I think a bear will go down. But that is a lucky shot at best if one happens to stumble upon a bear with no warning. I think I would want an automatic to be sure of getting the bear before it got me. And yes, I know noise is the best deterrent but it's not always possible. I may just invest in a Desert Eagle one day.No handgun will deliver a reliable ONE SHOT kill against a Grizzly Bear, regardless of caliber. The minimum I would consider for use against black bear would be a .357 Magnum with a 148 grain semi-jacketed soft point bullet, and at that I would expect to need three shots to stop (or seriously slow down) a bear. Even a .44 Magnum loaded with soft nose bullets would still be less than optimal, but probably better than a .357 Magnum. For bear, especially Grizzly, I'd recommend a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with slugs as probably the most effective choice. But even at that, I wouldn't expect any one shot stops.
A couple of things:Hmm,..my late uncle lived in Alaska, and he told me that everyone there carried a .357 when out and about, in case of grizzlies. Black bears are not as bad, and generally not as aggressive. One shot to the heart and I think a bear will go down. But that is a lucky shot at best if one happens to stumble upon a bear with no warning. I think I would want an automatic to be sure of getting the bear before it got me. And yes, I know noise is the best deterrent but it's not always possible. I may just invest in a Desert Eagle one day.
FYI, in case anyone is interested in old skoolin' their D/A revolvers. Tyler is back in business;
http://www.t-grips.com/
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