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Yes, or it wouldn't be used for moto gp
You could get it comissioned by many makers, Johnson leather can most likely deal with such an order for example.
I think only modern motorcycle racing suits are made from kangaroo leather. Thin, to reduce the weight, I think max is 1.2 mm, most are probably 1.0 mm. For casual jackets kangaroo leather is 0.8 mm, that is enough! Aero offered kangaroo leather more than 3 years ago, but no longer. I inquired. and they said the hides are too small and matching panels is very difficult. I contemplated a custom kangaroo jacket, but just the hides alone would cost around $1000 at retail when I looked. But worth asking Alan at JL, for sure! He's a pro!
Oh, My God! That’s even worse than Langlitz stopped talking direct orders from Japan.
Japan is the only country in the world that cannot buy Langlitz jackets directly. For example Langlitz takes direct orders from Zimbabwe, Somalia, Afganistan, China, North Korea as long as they put direct orders.
Japan is the only country in the world that cannot buy Langlitz jackets directly. For example Langlitz takes direct orders from Zimbabwe, Somalia, Afganistan, China, North Korea as long as they put direct orders.
In this case the California politicians decided that kangaroo hides are not harvested humanely and so they banned them. You can get a kangaroo biker jacket from Australia:
www.therealmccaul.com
Leather Jackets Made In Australia/ Custom Jackets & Tailor-Made
Family Owned business based on The Sunshine Coast, Queensland. Handcrafting Leather Jackets, Vest and other Leathergoods. Kangaroo Leather. Cowhide Leather. Proudly Australian Made.
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@Arrandale Kangaroo jackets are a bit hyped. The material would be used "in combination" with cow hide for race race suits. It just offers high abrasion resistance at thinner thickness. If you look up the leather race suits from dainese and spidi you will see them. These top end race suits are really built for one crash only, but the teams have sponsors money so they don't care.
Kangaroo leather is less than 2oz thick. You can buy them from Maverick Leather (in Oregon). Any non-Californian maker can make you a jacket in that material. But I doubt it has higher abrasion numbers than say 3.5oz cowhide. Kangaroo leather is also used in some drums (musical instrument).
I think you are covered in the tough leather department with your 7oz bull hide. With the sheep liner which I assume is about 2.5oz plus fur, it will likely stop small caliber bullet shot from very far.
Kangaroo leather is less than 2oz thick. You can buy them from Maverick Leather (in Oregon). Any non-Californian maker can make you a jacket in that material. But I doubt it has higher abrasion numbers than say 3.5oz cowhide. Kangaroo leather is also used in some drums (musical instrument).
I think you are covered in the tough leather department with your 7oz bull hide. With the sheep liner which I assume is about 2.5oz plus fur, it will likely stop small caliber bullet shot from very far.
High end racing suits are made of only Kangaroo skin, mine from BKS is 1.2mm thick on average. They aren't built for one crash only, they can be repaired.
In moto gp, they probably change them all the time because the cost is negligible at that level.
And yes Kangaroo hide is easily more abrasion resistant than double the thickness in cowhide.
Is it worhtwhile to have a jacket made of it? That is another question.
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You can also use the kangaroo leather at strategic stress and abrasion points to reinforce the jacket, using less leather overall for close to the same level of protection.
Thank you for such a thorough and detailed answer. I’m not a racer, as a matter of fact my job is to treat those who crashed, a plastic surgeon.
When Schott 184SM was imported in Japan and sold at Ameyoko, a cluster of small shops in Ueno, Tokyo I fell in love with it because the leather was so thick. I believe it was actually 3 ounce or so but it was significantly thicker than Japanese leather jackets. Before American made leather jackets I bought an N2-B type jacket from Howard, a Japanese shop. The leather was thin as paper.
Johnson Leather is an astonishing maker and Mr. Alan Zaffrin, the owner is the most flexible versatile maker I know of, and his jackets and coats are so much better than the famous Langlitz.
Kevlar reinforced rods are said to be 10 times stronger than steel rods when compared at the same weight. But I prefer high carbon steel anyway.
The same thing might be said about Kangaroo leather and bullhide. If I wanted a very strong, anti-abrasive garment I’ll choose Spectra guard jacket, which I actually have.
The same thing might be said about Kangaroo leather and bullhide. If I wanted a very strong, anti-abrasive garment I’ll choose Spectra guard jacket, which I actually have.
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Here I thought, you only need one roo, jut cut the tail for reinforcement patches and put on zipper you can have a seamless 1 piece racing suit
