Peaked-Lapel Tux Opinion, Please

[Warbaby]

I found this peaked-lapel tux today at the thrift ship. It's in like-new condition and set me back a whopping $7.50. Unfortunately, I'm not up on the subtlties of formal wear, so I'd really appreciate opinions on whether or not it's in style before I spend money on having the trousers altered (a bit small, though the jacket fits perfectly).

 

[Tomasso]

opinions on whether or not it's in style

Well, the jacket gorge (where the collar meets the lapel at the peak/notch) is on the low side (borderline 80's) but not egregiously so. Then there's the very Italian addition of satin trim at the jacket pockets and trouser waistband; certainly not classic features though hardly dated as Brioni and other top Italian makers offer similar stuff in their lines today.

 

[Marc Chevalier]

Then there's the very Italian addition of satin trim at the ... waist.

This detail is aimed at men who don't like wearing cummerbunds.

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[Dinerman]

I'm not so sure about all the satin. The whole thing looks pretty '80s. Not quite old enough to be classic, not new enough to be in-style.

 

[Tomasso]

This detail is aimed at men who don't like wearing cummerbunds.

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But it's a DB, so we'll never (hopefully) see the waistband.

 

[Max Flash]

But it's a DB, so we'll never (hopefully) see the waistband.

Hence a cummerbund is not required, regardless of whether it has the silk waistband or not!

 

[Cody Pendant]

It's Gorgeous!

I think it looks great, and a Beroni is a score. Wear it with pride and enjoy it, you’ll look better than most. As stated since it is double breasted, no cumber bun is worn. In this case, the finished waistband (read modern) is forgiven in my opinion. Some are objecting on that ground, but that is mostly based on the no vest or cumber bun worn with a single breasted dinner jacket modern style option. In other words the band replaces the vest or cumber bun. Six button double breasted became popular in the late ‘80’s and continue on to the present. Who cares unless you’re a trendy fashionista, forgetaboutit. Buy a couple different styles of DJ's as the opportunities arise and enjoy the variety.
I’ll link again the authoritative guide to all things tux by our esteemed member Midnight Blue:

http://www.blacktieguide.com/
He has a history section if you are interested.

And this sticky "a formal wear primer" here:
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=7058

 

[Tomasso]

a Beroni is a score.

Can you elaborate on Beroni, I've never heard of them?

Six button double breasted became popular in the late ‘80’s and continue on to the present.

Actually, their popularity began more than a half century earlier.

 

[Dinerman]

A Beroni is a score.

I can't fine any reference to Beroni online. I see Baroni, but not Beroni.

 

[Cody Pendant]

Tommasso and Dinerman,
The Deco style label says Beroni, not Baroni. Most likely, a label used ride on the BARONI brand panache, when it is not. A knock off, so to speak. Perhaps you are fixated on my exact syntax of words and not the meaning. I am not a “Brand” junkie; however, it does not mean I do not appreciate the big names. That said; it does not in anyway devalue my opinion of the tuxedo. It looks from the pics to be very nice.
I’ll state my case with the following:
First the sleeve has 4 buttons with button-hole stitches, if not working holes and the slit flap cut of a real sleeve, not the tubular ones of a “rental” which they use for fast easy sleeve adjustment. Second, the pants are “sized” and are not adorned with adjuster clasps. It was clearly not aimed at the rental industry but for true gentleman to purchase for his personal wardrobe.

Tommasso, as for the tuxedo’s double-breasted’ ness, we “ALL” know that is an old design. However previously the modern evolutions were four button, not six and the button placement is different than in the 1930's. "Six" buttons did however make a huge comeback in formal-ware in the late 1980's- the present. As it appears to be a four button, I was referring to refute the possible dating of it as 1980’s. The “Black Tie Guide” refers to the 1980's as the "Classic Revival II" era of formal wear, and has many examples in the history section. http://www.blacktieguide.com/History/10.htm


The tux also sports double button closures on the waist, and the collar has a bit of scallop to it as it meets the lapel. In my opinion: either newer or older.

I think with the proper fitting it will be a smashing tuxedo and I believe the details will provide some panache. Tuxedos are timeless and a good suit is a good suit, and in my own words “a score”!

 

[Warbaby]

Well, since the consensus seems to be that the style is sufficiently acceptable to be worn without eliciting snide comments, and since I'm not likely to be invited to dine with the Queen, wherein the finer points matter, this one's a keeper. Having the trousers tailored will cost me about 20 bucks, plus the cost of cleaning and pressing, and I'll end up with an acceptible formal outfit for under 50 bucks - which is pretty satisfying for a consummate bargain hunter like me. As soon as the trousers are back from the tailor I'll post pix of me wearing it and await a final judgement call.

 

[Edward]

I'll hazard a guess that, even with the cost of alterations, you've ended up spending a lot less than a single rental would have cost...

 

[cufflinkmaniac]

Nice enough, but can anything be done about the satin on the breast pocket at least?

 

[avedwards]

Pocket square

Since there is no button hole in the lapel (as far as I can tell) the jacket may look a little boring, however I would personally make this up by wearing a pocket square.

 

[cufflinkmaniac]

Since there is no button hole in the lapel (as far as I can tell) the jacket may look a little boring, however I would personally make this up by wearing a pocket square.

Any tailor with half a brain should be able to do a buttonhole. Just make certain that it isn't a keyhole shape.

 

[Tomasso]

Just make certain that it isn't a keyhole shape.

Then don't have it done in Napoli.

 

[cufflinkmaniac]

Then don't have it done in Napoli.

I wonder why it is so popular amogst Neopolitan tailors?

 

[Midnight Blue]

Can you elaborate on Beroni, I've never heard of them? Actually, their popularity began more than a half century earlier.

6-buttons may have been popular on lounge suits for over half a century but they did not appear on dinner jackets until the '80s.

 

[Warbaby]

Trousers Altered, Cleaned & Pressed...

Here's the tux in action. The fit feels perfect (though the photo would look better if I wasn't standing funny), the sleeve length is just right, but to my eyes, the jacket looks a bit short. Is it supposed to be cut that length or is it just that I have monkey arms?

 

[Cody Pendant]

Smashing!

You look quite debonair!:eusa_clap
(on a side note you could try smiling)
The jacket length looks to be within limits, main objective is to just cover the bottom curve of the buttocks.