mens wearhouse

[Detective_Noir]

boy have i met the most aggressive salesmen in my life, has anyone else been crowded by these guys trying to get you as suit size? i went in to buy a double breasted suit and was wanting a size in 40R but they tell me i wont look as good in it and look like im wearing a cape so instead they get me a slim fit 38R size where it still meets at the ends of my wrists just like a 40R.... any one else get this problem with these guys

 

[Tomasso]

any one else get this problem with these guys

I've only visited MW once but it was long enough to see that they're not very knowledgeable about things sartorial. That said, I'm not quite sure I understand the 'problem' you are referring to.

 

[Detective_Noir]

What I'm trying to say is that they are the most aggressive salesmen I've ever seen and they put in a suit size that's 2 sizes smaller than what my normal is and ring me up for it... The suit fits me but it feels a little tight on the shoulders for me

 

[ButteMT61]

No, I'm 6'-4" and never smile. They don't do that to me. Don't let them do it to you either. Talk to a manager.

 

[Feraud]

Sounds like they squeezed you into a suit that doesn't fit. Return it and find another shop to patronize.

 

[Detective_Noir]

well the suit fits around me and buttons with out stress or looking like its stretching but the shoulders feel tight when i lift my arms at 110 degree angle above my head.... maybe its just me from not wearing a suit in a while and forgetting how a suit feels but it feels comfortable on everything else except when i lift the shoulders.... the cuffs on the sleeves meet right at the ends of my wrists and they retract back half way to my forearms when i lift them forward.... that seems normal right?

 

[ButteMT61]

A suit that's uncomfortable to wear is not normal. At least not for me...

 

[Detective_Noir]

they took it to a tailor to fix the sleeves on the pants to make it meet the shoe line so i will see again how its final fit is when i recieve it...

 

[Detective_Noir]

how can i say this.... its snug but its not the murdering restricting me from movement tight just snug on me to seem slin and the sleeves are down at the joint of where my hand and wrist connect and the shoulders are wrapped around mine but get a snug feel when i lift my arms up... this seems normal to you guys right? i have no knowledge of trying to get a suit as i am new to trying to get these things, and if it is too tight will they let me trade outa jacket bigger than that one?

 

[Detective_Noir]

im sorry but its really hard to explain how it fits not when im not wearing it and it is in a tailoring shop right now

 

[Gin&Tonics]

We have more or less the equivalent of Mens Wearhouse in Canada called Moores. Their quality has gone down the tubes in the past years and their sales people are extremely pushy and not much help. I've sworn off them after a total fiasco of trying to get a suit fitted for me and them being totally unable to make it fit properly (because it was made wrong, as it turns out). I returned the thing and washed my hands of them.

You might try something like a made-to-measure outfit if bespoke is out of your price range (it's out of mine ,that's for sure) for the same or even less than what those big box suit stores charge you, you can have a suit made to your specific measurements.

Currently Maxwell's Clothiers out of Hong Kong is in the process of making me a 3 piece suit, made to my measurements with all my specifications (surgeon's cuffs, peak lapel jacket, shawl lapel waistcoat, high waisted trousers with fishtail and braces buttons, etc) as well as 3 shirts all for 700CAD. It's a crazy deal. We'll see if they live up to their reputation for excellent quality. When I get the product, I will be doing a post on the FL reviewing my experience and showing the results for everyone to see, so look out for it if you're considering M2M.

 

[scottyrocks]

It sounds to me as if you were fit in the way men on TV are wearing suits these days, iow, very snug. Look at most men featured on the tube these days. It looks like their jackets are pulling in front and are form-fitted everywhere else.

I like a slightly roomier jacket. I have no trouble trying stuff on that the salesman recommends but I also have no problem telling them I don't like something, and buying what I want. That aspect of your suit buying experience is only fixable by you. However, you may just be more comfortable in another shop. Different strokes, ya know . . .

 

[Undertow]

Yes, sounds like they put you in a snug size and then charged you out the rear for alterations. That's a MWH special. (I should trademark that term.)

My local MWH has an excellent tailor that's been there for many years. I will sometimes take larger jackets and trousers in to have them sized down. He does a marvelous job. But left in the hands of the aggressive MWH geeks, they will try to sell me on darts here, darts there, maybe a perma-crease, or how about a few inches in the shoulders but let's raise the sleeves. It's the MWH special - fit someone into a small/large suit, then alter the hell out of it.

They're making money on commission, and there's a chance they need to sell old stock. Know your size, know your measurements and don't back down. 85% of modern suit salesmen won't hassle you if you even seem knowledgeable. They're more interested in working over some dope for extra cash.

 

[Detective_Noir]

Is the jacket sleeves supposed to meet right at the top of the hand and show 1/2 an inch of cuff like they say its supposed to or are they just clueless? And the shoulder pads seem to end right where my shoulder ends and drops off while my other suit which is 40r regular has some small space off my shoulder and drops off and the end of the sleeve is an inch passed where the top of the hand is... Just realizing this after trying a different size on... Asking the more experienced on this site which seems better fitting to me?

 

[Detective_Noir]

And now after looking more and more into it my height is 5'11 and im 154 lbs and researching into it I found out people between 5'8 and 5'11 are around 38R and 6' and up go to 40R to sizes larger

 

[Noirblack]

And now after looking more and more into it my height is 5'11 and im 154 lbs and researching into it I found out people between 5'8 and 5'11 are around 38R and 6' and up go to 40R to sizes larger

Why don't you measure your chest with a tape measure and see if it is 38 inches or 40 inches? As for the tightness in the shoulders when you raise your arms, will you be doing this in the suit much?

 

[Detective_Noir]

They measured me for my size and it was a 38 inch chest so meaning 38 I guess but youre right I guess i wont be raising my arms much in a suit except for homecoming and prom for dancing the Appropriate way and not like how people dance today

 

[skyvue]

If your chest measures at 38 inches, you're a size 40.

And you should be able to raise your arms in a suit, but modern suits too often have large armholes that make it difficult -- raise your arms even a bit, and the whole jacket rises up.

That's one reason so many of us here prefer vintage suits and jackets -- the arm holes are smaller, and you therefore have greater freedom of movement. The body of the jacket remains in place even if you do raise your arms.

 

[Detective_Noir]

Is it possible when I go pick up the suit that they can make the jacket a larger size or do I have to buy a completely new suit.....

 

[Detective_Noir]

Sigh.... I feel like a complete idiot I just remeasured myself in height and i find I'm 5'9 1/4" either I got shorter somehow or I had measured myself wrong all this time by my doctor and me